Need Some Proper Advice

[bugzie]

Hi been using this forum for a good few years and find it a great help, but there seems to be many different opinions on very important things like Flywheels, should you have a flywheel ground if it is worn some say yes some say no..

is there an answer.

B

[seatkid]

Hi been using this forum for a good few years and find it a great help, but there seems to be many different opinions on very important things like Flywheels, should you have a flywheel ground if it is worn some say yes some say no..

is there an answer.

B

Only if you are into collonic irrigation. :)

[bugzie]

Hi been using this forum for a good few years and find it a great help, but there seems to be many different opinions on very important things like Flywheels, should you have a flywheel ground if it is worn some say yes some say no..

is there an answer.

B

Only if you are into collonic irrigation. :)

 

exactly what I'm talking about, haven't you got anything better to do

[gregers]

probably not :lol: but normally what seatkid says is spot on(thats enough brwn nosing S/K :lol: )

[sepulchrave]

'Worn' means what?

 

A dual mass flywheel cannot generally be reground because that is not what is usually wrong with it, therefore you simply replace it.

 

A conventional flywheel can and should be refaced IF it is slightly warped, surface spalling or heavily scored/ridged. This is not an expensive operation, typically about

[sepulchrave]

...Oh, and bugzie, you are SPAMMING this forum about your bleedin' clutch and NOT taking the good advice you are given!

[bugzie]

...Oh, and bugzie, you are SPAMMING this forum about your bleedin' clutch and NOT taking the good advice you are given!

 

I'm not spamming this forum I'm gathering info... as Against my better judgement I went to Mr c*** sorry clutch and am getting the felling I've been screwed.. so I intent to nail the f*****s good.... still working out the best route. the trouble with forums is you get numerous opinions.

Edited May 3, 2009 by gregers
this is a family forum,dont do it again

[mk2vr6]

I'm not spamming this forum I'm gathering info... as Against the better judgement of others on here I went to Mr c##t sorry clutch and I am getting the feeling I've been screwed.. so I intend to nail the f##kers good.... still working out the best route. the trouble with forums is you get numerous opinions that I will ignore anyway

 

:(

[roy202]

look mr clutch is a rip off and yes hes lying to you, go give him some shit and let us know how you get on?! Edited May 3, 2009 by gregers
this is a family forum,dont do it again

[bugzie]

I'm not spamming this forum I'm gathering info... as Against the better judgement of others on here I went to Mr c##t sorry clutch and I am getting the feeling I've been screwed.. so I intend to nail the f##kers good.... still working out the best route. the trouble with forums is you get numerous opinions that I will ignore anyway

 

:(

 

When you don't have the tools or facilities or cash to do the job right.. you are in the hands of the mechanics and if you don't have a clue you'll get shafted.... thats the human race for ya,

way do some people on this form have the same attitude as the c**ts we are trying to avoid, Oh and don't f**K with my lyrics

mk2vr6

[gregers]

HE DIDNT I DID,TOUGH IF YOU DONT LIKE IT.we are all here to offer and gain as much info as possible from people who kindly offer it FREE OF CHARGE from some very knowledgable people and as far as i can see we as a whole DO NOT HAVE THE SAME ATTITUDE AS YOU SO POLITLEY PUT IT AS THE DEALERS WHO REGULARY SHAFT PEOPLE,as this is a family forum please do not use language like that again.

[mk2vr6]

yes I did :( I also corrected the spelling mistakes in my quoted/altered version :D

[gregers]

ooops didnt notice them VR6 :lol:then again i cant speel aneway

[bugzie]

fudh

[seatkid]

Cool it bugzie, I understand you may be stressed.......we don't want to lose members, but bad language and insults are not in order.

 

I know you think you are right, but let me recap. You posted about your clutch and the apparent wide spread belief that flywheels should be ground. I replied to you that they shouldnt, they should be machined if necessary. The story from Mr Clutch just rings of a cowboy approach. I am not aware that there is any belief (and certainly not on this forum) that grinding is desirable or even common.

 

However you apparently chose to ignore my reply and repost the same topic in different words. This is tantamount to spam and hence you got a rough ride from the members.

 

Look, you got screwed by Mr Clutch - if you did a google or posted here before you went and spent your money you probably would have avoided them. After all you could go to somewhere like Rapidfit, and you'll get Ford trained technicians fitting genuine parts at Mr Clutch prices. I have said many times to members - USE THE PHONE (or as they used to sing - let your fingers do the walking....Yellow Pages)

 

New clutches do not need to be bedded in, and they dont judder. But then you didnt say whether your clutch had worn to the point that metal to metal contact took place and damage to the flywheel happened.

 

Dont use childish acronyms - the insults are still insults and hurt contributors (hence the defensive replies) and puts them off continuing.

[sepulchrave]

Ok, bugzie I'll throw you a bone because I'm a nice guy...

 

Your clutch is juddering because Mr Clutch have either NOT refaced the flywheel as they stated, or worse yet they haven't bothered to replace the pressure plate, or both. In which case they won't have renewed the release bearing or the flywheel bolts either.

 

They are franchise cowboys, I told you not to use them, because they're a franchise they are not accountable to anyone, you might as well have used a back street garage (many of whom are actually very good).

 

Your problems are way beyond the scope of this forum and you should seek redress through your local Trading Standards office, may I suggest you speak to them politely and respectfully. :(

[bugzie]

Cool it bugzie, I understand you may be stressed.......we don't want to lose members, but bad language and insults are not in order.

 

I know you think you are right, but let me recap. You posted about your clutch and the apparent wide spread belief that flywheels should be ground. I replied to you that they shouldn't, they should be machined if necessary. The story from Mr Clutch just rings of a cowboy approach. I am not aware that there is any belief (and certainly not on this forum) that grinding is desirable or even common.

 

However you apparently chose to ignore my reply and repost the same topic in different words. This is tantamount to spam and hence you got a rough ride from the members.

 

Look, you got screwed by Mr Clutch - if you did a google or posted here before you went and spent your money you probably would have avoided them. After all you could go to somewhere like Rapidfit, and you'll get Ford trained technicians fitting genuine parts at Mr Clutch prices. I have said many times to members - USE THE PHONE (or as they used to sing - let your fingers do the walking....Yellow Pages)

 

New clutches do not need to be bedded in, and they dont judder. But then you didn't say whether your clutch had worn to the point that metal to metal contact took place and damage to the flywheel happened.

 

Dont use childish acronyms - the insults are still insults and hurt contributors (hence the defensive replies) and puts them off continuing.

 

Rapidfit quote

[the-boss]

...Oh, and bugzie, you are SPAMMING this forum about your bleedin' clutch and NOT taking the good advice you are given!

so you have had a run in with mr cl*ch they charged 1 of my customers for a duel mass flywheel the didnt exsit on a citreon. this i know because i called citreon to check. low and behold it never exsited for 1996 zantia petrol and that BECAUSE duel mass flywheels never can out until 2001 but back to your problem duel mass are filled with GEL and they basicly work to smooth out the running of your engine normaly when duel mass is at fault you need to replace the starter motor/duel mass flywheel/concentric slave and clutch but basicly there is no way to diagnos duel mass apart from changing it??? hope this was of some help.

 

the boss