Ecu Key Advice

[Muesli Camel]

Hi All,

 

Here is one to ponder (please!!!)

 

I have a 1999 Ford galaxy 2.3 Manual in my garage which I have stripped.

 

I have just seen another one with front damage and lost keys, I have seen the posts on here re programming the keys but is it possible (and easy!) to just swap the ECU from my one to the other one and use that ignition key and lock?

 

I have the ignition key and barrel out already so if this is possible it would just mean locating the ECU?

 

Am I talking out of where the sun doesn't shine or is this a good idea?

 

Your thoughts o wise ones....

 

MC

Edited March 11, 2009 by Muesli Camel

[Willie Krashitt]

I'm no expert on this, but what you are suggesting sounds reasonable.

From my dealings with other PATS equipped vehicles, I'm certain you will also need the 'PATS Transeiver' module- this is the bit that 'reads' the keys, and possibly/probably the PATS module that resides somewhere behind the instrument cluster.

eTIS shows 2 diagrams for the 2.0/2.3 Galaxy, one saying that the transeiver module is on the steering column, the other saying that it is in the central junction box.

Sorry I can't enlighten you any more than this.

 

George.

[Muesli Camel]

I'm no expert on this, but what you are suggesting sounds reasonable.

From my dealings with other PATS equipped vehicles, I'm certain you will also need the 'PATS Transeiver' module- this is the bit that 'reads' the keys, and possibly/probably the PATS module that resides somewhere behind the instrument cluster.

eTIS shows 2 diagrams for the 2.0/2.3 Galaxy, one saying that the transeiver module is on the steering column, the other saying that it is in the central junction box.

Sorry I can't enlighten you any more than this.

 

George.

 

 

Thanks for this, I was hoping so, I have done some digging and removed the ecu, you were right, on post 98 models it is behind the dash clocks, I now have a good key with the remote bits complete and working, a good barrel for the ignition and the matching ecu.

 

Now all I have to do is break in the bloody thing, I have a spare rear vent window so breaking this with a hammer at the moment seems the best option, then drilling out the lock unless anyone else has an easier way?

 

 

I let you know how I get on.

 

Thanks,

 

MC

[Muesli Camel]

I'm no expert on this, but what you are suggesting sounds reasonable.

From my dealings with other PATS equipped vehicles, I'm certain you will also need the 'PATS Transeiver' module- this is the bit that 'reads' the keys, and possibly/probably the PATS module that resides somewhere behind the instrument cluster.

eTIS shows 2 diagrams for the 2.0/2.3 Galaxy, one saying that the transeiver module is on the steering column, the other saying that it is in the central junction box.

Sorry I can't enlighten you any more than this.

 

George.

 

 

Thanks for this, I was hoping so, I have done some digging and removed the ecu, you were right, on post 98 models it is behind the dash clocks, I now have a good key with the remote bits complete and working, a good barrel for the ignition and the matching ecu.

 

Now all I have to do is break in the bloody thing, I have a spare rear vent window so breaking this with a hammer at the moment seems the best option, then drilling out the lock unless anyone else has an easier way?

 

 

I let you know how I get on.

 

Thanks,

 

MC

 

 

Further to the above I recovered the galaxy today, i drilled the lock off and got past the steering lock and fitted my new remote key and lock.

 

I then changed the ECU behind the clocks to the one that matches the key but no joy as when I turn the key nothing happens.

 

The car has had a prang at the front so there is a possiblility that something has been dislodged which I will investigate but as the owner claims the car drove before he lost the keys and I have no reason to doubt him I think I may be clutching at straws here.

 

Does anyone have any suggestions as to what I may or may not have done or not done?

 

Thanks,

 

MC

Edited March 14, 2009 by Muesli Camel

[seatkid]

The PATS chip in the key is a seperate block located as shown below - its not associated with the remote (PCB)

 

The PATS chip must programmed to match the vehicles PATS module (or the module should be programmed - Im not sure which round)

 

I think only dealers have the equipment to do this.

 

Programming the remote key has nothing to do with the PATS.

[mk2vr6]

IIRC? once the transeiver is disconnected from the module it needs to be reprogrammed into the system the two parts will not communicate till you do this and wont allow the car to start! its a dealer job or possibly someone wth a full unlocked copy of vag com?

[Muesli Camel]

IIRC? once the transeiver is disconnected from the module it needs to be reprogrammed into the system the two parts will not communicate till you do this and wont allow the car to start! its a dealer job or possibly someone wth a full unlocked copy of vag com?

 

Thanks for this info.

 

I have been over the car and to be honest it is not worth saving as it will need a crash panel and rad as well and the rear pass side door and arch is dented so I have deceided to break it instead.

 

I am going to put it on ebay so if anyone needs anything, just search under my user id MIJ544.

 

If you mentioned this website in your question as a thanks for your help I will knock 15%

 

Regards,

 

MC