Front Fog Lights

[benidormbob123]

Hi All, I have brought original front fog lights for my gal.Anyone know how you fit them please.Do i have to buy any brackets or make any mods.Thanks BoB

[Scorpiorefugee]

Why bother? :wacko:

 

It is illegal to use them if it is not foggy and they are only of any value in severe night time fog and at very low speeds as they should be aimed at the road less than 20 yds ahead.

 

Seriously, I have had front fogs as standard equipment on every car I have had for the past 20 years and the only use I have found for them is to flash them at the idiots who use them illegally and they are not even very effective at that.

 

I am sorry if this appears offensive, that is not my intention. :lol:

Edited October 26, 2008 by Scorpiorefugee

[av02]

Ermm, well back to the question - Like Benidormbob, would also like to fit factory ones to my LX, if I can find a set . As per his question, Anyone done this and how easy is it ?

[mk2vr6]

easy job, you need the replacement light switch and fogs, you use to be able to get them over the counter at Fords as a compelte kit inc the relay, you will how ever need to check that you have the loom and plugs in place behind the bumper before you start :16:

[av02]

Thanks for that, MK2VR6.

Will check on my days off !!

[Mirez]

It is illegal to use them if it is not foggy and they are only of any value in severe night time fog and at very low speeds as they should be aimed at the road less than 20 yds ahead.

 

I believe the purpose is for you to be more visable to oncoming traffic, not for you to see the road!!

[big_kev]

I believe the purpose is for you to be more visable to oncoming traffic, not for you to see the road!!

 

 

Nope, they are for use in fog (or snow or dusty air) when the operation of the normal headlamps is innefective ( not lighting the road and/or causing reflective glare to the driver).

 

They must be switchable seperatly from the main headlights (dipped beam)..so you can use one or the other not both at the same time.

[mk2vr6]

They must be switchable seperately from the main headlights (dipped beam)..so you can use one or the other not both at the same time.

 

go and switch yours on then edit your reply to suit :16:

[big_kev]

They must be switchable seperately from the main headlights (dipped beam)..so you can use one or the other not both at the same time.

 

go and switch yours on then edit your reply to suit :rolleyes:

 

 

 

This is correct, I can use my front fog lights seperatly from my headlights.

[davewill]

I can use my front fog lights with sidelights and also with dipped beam headlights so i can use mine under both scenaros

 

(Mkll Zetec 2006 1.9Tdi) ;)

[Scorpiorefugee]

I have just got back to this and am a little suprised to find discussions still active. I stand by my original comments.I used to have fogs back as far as the '60s when we really did have fog and then they were useful when it was barely possible to drive at about 5mph with the heads off and the fogs aimed at the kerb and white line.

 

The highway code is quote clear on this subject but does not define what is sever fog. My view is that it is severe if you cannot drive safely in excess of 30mph so I find it difficult to excuse anyone who drives at 90 with all lights blazing.

 

Dipped headlights should be used to let people ahead see you. Fog lights can cause serious dazzle and that is certainly not productive.

 

I challenge anyone to claim that fog lights help you to see where you are going at speeds over 30mph when they only light up the road for about 30 feet if they are correctly adjusted. I can also argue effectively that rear fogs should only be used in daylight fog but that is another matter.

 

Nope. Their only use now is for show and that really works to display the mentality of the user.

[Scorpiorefugee]

Addendum to above.

 

My last comment was a little harsh - apologies.

 

There can be no doubt that many use them as "Get out of my way" lights.

 

However, I have tried my front fogs on occasions in severe weather and switched them off immediately as they had no useful effect. I find it bl00dy annoying to have to switch them on in severe daylight fog just to have my rear fogs on but I suppose that it does little harm under those circumstances.

 

It's all in the name of progress I suppose.

Edited August 25, 2009 by Scorpiorefugee

[big_kev]

Nope. Their only use now is for show and that really works to display the mentality of the user.

 

 

My last comment was a little harsh - apologies.

 

Don't apologise you are quite correct !

[gregers]

i agree aswell,

a slightly older chap i know will flash his lights at the on comming car when he sees that they have there fog lights on,he gets really irate about.

[Scorpiorefugee]

Thanks fellers, it's good to know that there are still drivers out there who try to do the job properly and by the rules without making up silly justifications for their own incompetence or bad habits. I'm afraid this is a pet hate (if you hadn't noticed) but there are a lot more and the list would generate a lot of complaints and ill founded comments from the many drivers who seem to have graduated from the "Grand Theft Auto" school of motoring so I shall just take some pills and pretend that all is well with the world for a while. :huh:

[Saif Rehman]

Tell me to 'shut-up' but even though this is an interesting debate going on here - the original poster only asked if he could fit them to his car yet rather than give him a straight answer like what mk2vr6 did , the replies have gone on a little astray.

 

Why not start a new thread named 'What annoys you about other drivers driving habits'

 

I noticed the OP is a fairly new member - he maybe to scared to come back now.

 

Rant over.

[Scorpiorefugee]

Agreed.

 

I only responded to the original post in good faith as I see no point in spending time adding useless accessories. As far as being a rant, it is more a case of putting forward a point of law and good practice as far too many drivers are now ignorant of or in total disregard of both. I only picked up on the later comments by accident as I took no further interest in it.

 

We did have a recent reported local case of driver having an on the spot fine for mis-use of front fogs and there was an immediate drop in the numbers using them in broad daylight and there was the usual load of opionated misunderstanding. I just think that the roads would be a lot safer if more emphasis was made on applying the rules rather than making excuses for ignoring them.

 

It seems a little strange that after my piece of advice, only one has come in with much in the way of assistance with the original request and I do feel sorry for the OP and hope that he goes on to gain as much from this site as I have. He probably lost interest after he fitted them. I just hope he is using them wisely.

Edited August 27, 2009 by Scorpiorefugee

[mk2vr6]

This is correct, I can use my front fog lights seperatly from my headlights.

 

 

you cant! you have to have the main lights switched on and only then can you pull the switch out to switch on the fogs

[seatkid]

you cant! you have to have the main lights switched on and only then can you pull the switch out to switch on the fogs

 

B.o.l.l.o.c.k.s.! B)

 

(Been waiting a long time to say that......hehe) :wacko:

Edited August 27, 2009 by seatkid

[Scorpiorefugee]

This is correct, I can use my front fog lights seperatly from my headlights.

 

 

you cant! you have to have the main lights switched on and only then can you pull the switch out to switch on the fogs

 

Wrong on my current motors. I never use them so I had to go out and check. :D

 

But I did have one a few years ago which did need the main lights on first but I cant remember which. Just remember I was bl00dy annoyed when I found out but it didn't matter for the previous reason. I reckon it was either the Granny, the Scorpio or the Merc. :wacko: B) B)

 

Can I say "B0LL0CKS" too? :P

Edited August 27, 2009 by Scorpiorefugee

[big_kev]

you cant! you have to have the main lights switched on and only then can you pull the switch out to switch on the fogs

 

B.o.l.l.o.c.k.s.! B)

 

(Been waiting a long time to say that......hehe) :wacko:

 

D.o.u.b.l.e....B.o.l.l.o.c.k.s.! B)

[MrT]

I disconnected the plug from the light switch then swapped the rear and front fog light contacts within the plug so when I pull out the switch one notch the rear fogs go on and two notches both. The dash warnings still work as normal. I did this because I have found a greater need for the rear fogs than the front fogs.

 

I have heard rumours that on BMWs there is an option for front fog lights to permanently wired on as the drivers want to draw attention to the fact that they have bought an overpriced car and want to be noticed driving it. :lol:

[insider]

Interestingly the Mark III Galaxy (and S-MAX) have the parking lights and fog lights combined in the same unit.

So, when the parking lights are on they look like fog lights (but a lot dimmer of course!). Perhaps this was to assist those drivers who want the appearance but without having to drive "illegally"?

[Scorpiorefugee]

I'm beginning to wonder if there is a case for a form of inverted snobbery to buy a Ghia and have the front fogs removed. :lol: :lol: :D

 

MrT, that sounds like a brilliant mod. Far better than accepting that you have to have the front ones on when you only need the back ones.

 

It seems a bit farcical that correct installation and alignment of fog lights is not part of the MOT when you think of the way that some people have them set.

Edited September 3, 2009 by Scorpiorefugee