Bigjeeze Posted September 13, 2008 Report Posted September 13, 2008 p-849-silkolene-superma-15w-50-for-certain-petrol-engined-cars-and-vans.aspx c-388-silkolene-engine-oil.aspx p-776-silkolene-castorene-r40-castor-based-engine-oil.aspx function popupimg(url) { window.open('popup.aspx?src=' + url,'LargerImage85378363','toolbar=no,location=no,directories=no,status=no,menubar=no,scrollbars=yes,resizable=yes,copyhistory=no,width=700,height=700,left=0,top=0'); return (true); } java script:void(0); Silkolene TURBOLENE DX 15W-40 For Most Diesel And Petrol Engines Technical Details PDFTURBOLENE DX 15W-40 is a new generation universal 4-stroke diesel and petrol engine oil. The latest technology is incorporated to give the widest possible performance profile. The performance incorporates both API CI-4 and ACEA E5/E7 specifications, which until recently have not been available in one product. This combination of specifications is made possible only by the use of a precise balance of additives and inhibitors in selected base oils. API CI4/SL CCMC D5/D4, PD-2, G4 ACEA A3, B3, E3, E5 & E7 MAN 3275 Mercedes Benz 228.3, 229.1 Volvo VDS 3 Volkswagen VW 501.01, VW 505.00 Cummins CES 20077/20078 Allison C4 Renault RLD2 Caterpillar ECF-1 Also entirely suitable for use where API CH-4, CG-4, CF-4 and CCMC D5 specifications are called for. On line Price Quote
jkspoff Posted September 13, 2008 Report Posted September 13, 2008 (edited) My local dealer now do a 'value' service where they do an oil change (using the correct oil !) and filters plus overall servicing items for Edited September 13, 2008 by jkspoff Quote
turk90210 Posted September 13, 2008 Report Posted September 13, 2008 Think you will find the PD oil is 505.01 spec or higher (the oil you have shown is for the early non PD engines) and ranges from Quote
seatkid Posted September 13, 2008 Report Posted September 13, 2008 Is this OK for my PD Engine?Definitely not. You require 505.01 or better. 505.00 is old basic diesel oil. If you want cheap PD Oil then try phoning a local VW/Seat/Skoda dealer and ask for Quantum PD Oil (5l can). (This is Castrol Edge Oil as far as I can tell). IIRC Millers Oil offer good quality but low priced PD oil. Halfords often have 2 for 1 offers which makes their 505.01 full synthetic diesel oil extremely competitive phoine them before you visit and ask. Quote
Bigjeeze Posted September 14, 2008 Author Report Posted September 14, 2008 (edited) Edited September 15, 2008 by Bigjeeze Quote
rodders Posted September 14, 2008 Report Posted September 14, 2008 the last time i serviced my bus i used the same vw spec oil you have quoted it was only in it for 14 months, carlube triple r 5/40 fully synth same vw spec...it was only when looking on here & sharan forum that i realised how specific these pd engines are for correct oil...so i rang up carlube,even they confirmed what has been said on here that the oil that a pd needs has got to be 505.01..i also asked would the other spec oil have any damaging affect to my engine even though it was still a vw spec oil & fully synth ..he said only long term may be around 8 to 10 years & would mostly affect the particle filter & egr valve & maybe clog up the cat but never been proven...he also said the reason it needs 505/01 is because of fixed interval service what ever that is...iv since changed to correct oil carlube triple r 5-40 fully synth for pd engines as he said same price....i have now got castrol edge 5-40 for pd engines for next service as i can get this of a friend who works there for free....just play it safe & put pd oil in it.alot cheaper than an engine..thats my opinion anyway... Quote
seatkid Posted September 15, 2008 Report Posted September 15, 2008 (edited) Please see where I have highlighted the text - it is VW 50501 compliant - That isn't my question - my question is has anyone used it - is it OK - it seems remarkably cheap?!! Please read your own post :blink: It says Volkswagen VW 501.01, VW 505.00 Its not 505.01 compliant!! Thats why it seem so cheap!!! he said only long term may be around 8 to 10 years & would mostly affect the particle filter & egr valve & maybe clog up the cat but never been provenThis is bullshit. The 505.01 has a high shear additive that is to protect the camlobes operating the injectors and the valve gear - the design has very small contact area and much higher than normal operating pressure. Without the necessary protection, wear is inevitable and can be quite rapid - just a few months. It is a proven fact and many cases have been reported. You may be lucky and get away with one period of using a non certified oil (because it has just enough capability of it is a good oil) - but once the oil barrier is compromised, metal to metal contact scores and strips the hardened cam surfaces and its then too late...... Edited September 15, 2008 by seatkid Quote
sepulchrave Posted September 15, 2008 Report Posted September 15, 2008 (edited) Nasty case of dyscalculia there, could have wrecked your nice PD engine. Buy the correct grade of oil and all will be fine, there is loads of rubbish talked about this brand or that brand, generally the more people spend the more excited they get about the marketing blurb. I'll second Seatkid and recommend Millers XFE-PD oils, they're terrific for quality and value. Edited September 15, 2008 by sepulchrave Quote
Bigjeeze Posted September 15, 2008 Author Report Posted September 15, 2008 Thanks Guys - my apologies for misreading my own post - It's all very confusing all those 5's 0's and 1's!! (Mumof4 will confirm it's my age) I just feel that we are being ripped off by the price of these oils - but as we have no choice it just remains to find the cheapest of the correct standard. A1 stores say there is only Quote
gregers Posted September 15, 2008 Report Posted September 15, 2008 as mentioned b4 in this thread,i got some from halfrogs on a bogoff deal,im assuming if they still do this then it could work out cheaper? hey rodders,can your m8 get me a few hundred gallons free? Quote
edatelder Posted September 15, 2008 Report Posted September 15, 2008 (edited) as mentioned b4 in this thread,i got some from halfrogs on a bogoff deal,im assuming if they still do this then it could work out cheaper? hey rodders,can your m8 get me a few hundred gallons free? What are the symptoms of a "knackered" engine after using low spec non-PD oil? Does it vibrate? Sound lumpy at low revs? Shake the whole car? Edited September 15, 2008 by edatelder Quote
gregers Posted September 15, 2008 Report Posted September 15, 2008 shake the whole car/vibrate,sure its not the stabilizer bar gone? Quote
Bigjeeze Posted September 15, 2008 Author Report Posted September 15, 2008 Hi Gregers Yes I know that Halfrauds had a BOGOF offer - but they have it no longer! Their oil is Quote
bj2004 Posted September 15, 2008 Report Posted September 15, 2008 (edited) dont know if this helps but www.cpc.co.uk are selling it at a good price and i think they do mail orderpart no CP04592 Edited September 15, 2008 by bj2004 Quote
rodders Posted September 16, 2008 Report Posted September 16, 2008 hey rodders,can your m8 get me a few hundred gallons free?cant get no extra sorry took me ages to get him to get me it...with reference to my entry above if your saying my pd engine is wrecked...dont think so,running perfect i also read opening post wrong with the oil quoted mine was to vw 505.01..the reason why i rang carlube up themselves was to verify i was using the correct oil as it never stated pd engines...then he said..yes its the correct spec but they also do one just for a pd same spec...so replaced it...and with reference to what he said about damage...got to agree with you out there...thats why it was changed just in case... Quote
Beyond Help? Posted September 18, 2008 Report Posted September 18, 2008 Is this OK for my PD Engine?Definitely not. You require 505.01 or better. 505.00 is old basic diesel oil. If you want cheap PD Oil then try phoning a local VW/Seat/Skoda dealer and ask for Quantum PD Oil (5l can). (This is Castrol Edge Oil as far as I can tell). I think it is probably Fuch's Titan, unless it has changed recently. Quote
Bigjeeze Posted October 11, 2008 Author Report Posted October 11, 2008 Dear all I finally found a fairly priced oil - I bought 4.5 litres of Comma PD Oil from Motorists Discount Centre at Quote
jkspoff Posted October 11, 2008 Report Posted October 11, 2008 If I had a pound for every time PD oil is mentioned on this forum I wouldn't have to worry too much about the recession !.......even though I started one of the biggest threads on it.....PD oil link !! Quote
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