Ncap Crash Test Question.

[stevejannicole]

Does anyone have the NCAP results for the galaxy?. I have a 2000 X reg 2.3 ghia and cannot get any results because the NCAP website is near on impossible to access.

[Smilge]

I had no problem with accessing the site Steve and I did try to stick a screen dump of the page you were after on this forum but to no luck I'm afraid. Anyway, it came out at a 5 Star for the front passengers with a score of 37. The rear passengers came out at 4 stars with a score of 35 and pedestrians came out at 2 stars which is pretty standard for a large MPV.

[Smilge]

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Sorry got it wrong again Dad ......

[seatkid]

That result is for the new Ford Galaxy (mkIII)

The older Galaxy has a 3 star rating IIRC.

[mk2vr6]

not even bothering to post as the site wont hold the link or times out .................. Edited August 18, 2008 by mk2vr6

[mumof4]

well your managing to post hun

[seatkid]

[url="http://www.euroncap.com/tests/vw_sharan_1999/63.aspx"]1999 NCAP result - 3 stars adult occupant, 2 stars pedestrian[/url]

[Smilge]

[quote name='seatkid' post='134507' date='Aug 18 2008, 17:08:34']That result is for the new Ford Galaxy (mkIII)

The older Galaxy has a 3 star rating IIRC.[/quote]

Sorry got a little confused with this being posted in the Mk 3 specific area.

[mumof4]

ahh, i shall move it. never notived. Thanks Bleeno.

[MrT]

Is there any difference between the Mk1 &Mk2 on NCAP? The Mk2 has more air bags.

Another thing to remember about safety is that in NCAP the car is chucked into a block of steel & concrete weighing many tons, like hitting a wall. In a Galaxy if you had a crash with a typical sized car you would be better off than being in another typical sized car due to the Galaxys size and weight and your higher position.

[redwolf3000]

[quote name='MrT' post='134541' date='Aug 19 2008, 13:09:44']Is there any difference between the Mk1 &Mk2 on NCAP? The Mk2 has more air bags.

Another thing to remember about safety is that in NCAP the car is chucked into a block of steel & concrete weighing many tons, like hitting a wall. In a Galaxy if you had a crash with a typical sized car you would be better off than being in another typical sized car due to the Galaxys size and weight and your higher position.[/quote]


Sorry to drag this one back up again, but as I work in the crash testing industry I would just like to pick up on a couple of points.

To imply that NCAP testing is not real life because the car is hitting steel and concrete is factually incorrect. The industry has spent millions of pounds and several decades of research to establish that the test used in NCAP rating is very realistic. The car is not hitting several tonnes of steel and concrete, it is hitting a very carefully sized piece of especially produced deformable substrate that behaves exactly like hitting another vehicle of the same size and weight, as the impacting vehicle. The impact is also not full frontal, it is a 40% offset so that the strongest part of the cars chassis structure is dealing with the crash energies.

This deformable is changed for every test, and is cut and positioned differently for every different vehicle type that is tested.


Also, to say that being in a Galaxy you will be better off when crashing into a typical sized car, than you would be if you were in a similar sized vehicle as the other involved in the crash, is also factually inaccurate.

The NCAP tests are based around a car hitting another car of the same size and weight, this is the industry standard test, so certainly newer vehicles are built especially to perform well in this test. That means that when the car is involved in a crash with a different size vehicle it will behave in a manner that is not described during an NCAP test. This may mean that the car will ride up over a smaller car, thus you will get far more pedal area intrusioon resulting in lower leg and foot injuries not found in NCAP test.

The car may ride under the bumper of a bigger vehicle causing abnormal incursion into the occupant compartment, causing crush injuries not seen in NCAP testing. If the vehicles crash in any other configuration than a 40% offset then the strongest part of the chassis may not be dealing with the energies so they will dissipate differently and possibly cause more injuries to the occupants.

There are hundreds of different types of crash and only in one of them will the vehicle behave the same way as in the NCAP test.

[insider]

Probably best to drive carefully and try not to crash at all then!

[gregers]

exactly,if you have a five star rated car then the ratings mean diddly squat because they haven't taken all aspects of crashing into account.1 degree either way COULD mean good or bad news to everyone concerned.

[tim-spam]

Mk II has never been tested, but should be considerably better than Mk I, although 3 stars for the Mk I before such things were fashionable was a pretty good showing. After all, what did a 1999 Espace or Voyager score?

[seatkid]

[quote name='tim-spam' post='137716' date='Dec 12 2008, 14:27:04']After all, what did a 1999 Espace or Voyager score?[/quote]

IIRC 1.5 dead dogs

[MrT]

So a head on between a Gal and a Smart Car, which one would you rather be in?