Indicators Not Working!

[MrClarkey]

I have recently purchased a 1.9TDI 1998, Ford Galaxy. I bought it very cheap and as a result has lots of niggles and work to be done!

My first problem is that I can't get mt indicators to work at all. I have tried the fuses and checked all the connections and bulbs. Any ideas please? (This will be the first of many posts.!

[Mirez]

If you use the hazzard switch do they work?

[MrClarkey]

If you use the hazzard switch do they work?

 

 

No hazard switch not working either.

[MrClarkey]

Does anyone know If a relay may be faulty causing this? If so which one? Its not easy driving with my arm out of the window. Looks like I going to have to go to the expense of an auto electrician. :D

[Mirez]

Ok this shouldn't be that tricky, if the hazzard switch is also NG then its a safe assumption its a circuit fault. The first thing to do is to gather some info for checking purposes. I'll guide you through checking all the main parts of the system now, you'll need a standard volt meter (about

[NikpV]

what a great post Mirez

[Mirez]

Thankyou, but then it is what I do - albeit on a slightly smaller scale lol :D

[MrClarkey]

Wow that is a great post! On my way to purchase a volt meter. I am more mechanically minded than electrical so I will try to get my head around it. Just for your information the indicators all failed when I was using the Hazard lights.

 

Thanks for your help.

[bj2004]

mods

this post needs putting in the faqs the man is a star

[MrClarkey]

ok, firstly i cant find fuse 52 and 55. my central fuse box (under the instrument panel) numbers fuses 1 to 40 and they run horizontally and in the owners guide only refers to fuse 17 being for the direction indicators. I have replaced this to no avail. secondly I dont appear to have any further fuses in the Auxiliary fuse and relay box and only one relay ( in the engine compartment).

 

I have removed the cowling and the connections appear ok however I have not carried out any tests as you describe owing to your descriptions of the fuses being different to mine.

 

One thing I have noticed though if this helps is that with my door open and the direction indicator on I get a buzzing sound like my lights left on alarm.

 

I am confused but willing to learn

 

please advise.

 

:rolleyes:

Edited July 18, 2008 by MrClarkey

[NikpV]

One thing I have noticed though if this helps is that with my door open and the direction indicator on I get a buzzing sound like my lights left on alarm.

 

:rolleyes:

this is ok leaving the indicator on lights the relevant side lights rear and front for parking on a road so if you open the door the lights on indicator should sound - to the parking lights on the relevant sides come on in these circumstances?? - may show that the stalk switch is ok ??

[MrClarkey]

Yes the lights on indicator does sound on both sides when i try this leading me to believe that the indicator stalk is ok, but what now?

[NikpV]

Yes the lights on indicator does sound on both sides when i try this leading me to believe that the indicator stalk is ok, but what now?

 

but do the light s actually come on ??

 

fusebox has several layers have you looked at the next layer - sorry cant remember how though

Edited July 18, 2008 by NikpV

[Mirez]

Hummm your car has 97 wiring then, must have been an early 98 - No biggy.

 

I would also be of the opinion that the indicator switch is operational if the park light warning is working. I cant quite make out the schematic though for the 98 - it would appear that the hazzards and directions are all powered from F17 - 10Amp. This is direct into relay K61. K61 puts an output to pin 4 (Black/Green) of C186, in theory this seems to be the full load requirement for both indicator circuits.

 

When the hazzard switch is in the off position then power is sent from F17 to the relay K61, when its in the on position its sent from the busbar to K61. Since you have the fault in both positions then the switch could be a potential fail point. You need to locate C14 on the right side of the column - find pin 10 (Black) and check for 12V with the ignition on - thats the supply from F17. Next check pin 8 of the same connector (White / Yellow). If no 12V exits here then the switch is most likely defective, depress the hazzard switch and again measure the output from pin 8 - if again there is no 12V then the switch is almost certainly the cause.

 

If 12V exists then measure pin 4 of C186 (Black/Green) to ground with the ignition on - this is the supply from relay K61 to the control stalk and ultimately the indicators. You'll probably get 0V and a high (infinity) resistance to ground instead of 12V. Therefore locate and replace relay K61 as a its the only other common point in the 97 circuit!

 

If you do have 12V here then measure pins 2 (Green/Black) and pin 7 (Green) on C186 with the ignition on and the direction stalk in one of the positions - if you dont have 12V (or that floating 3V>12V siganal) then its likely a defective controller stalk.

Edited July 18, 2008 by Mirez

[MrClarkey]

Thats excellent, I will run the tests and let you know. Thanks for your help.

[MrClarkey]

Result:

 

It turned out to be the Hazard warning light switch. I managed to find a replacement indicator / hazard switch unit off ebay for only