Power To Window

[scorch21]

Hi Guys,

Through the forum you have helped me fix my elec window problems :P , Now the thing is its still the window but there is no power going to the window, the door light works and i have checked all the wires and they are ok. The front passenger one works as does the rear quarter pain, but the rear passenger window wont work ?????? Been told it could be the relay but as the others work im thinking no, im thinking motor is there anyway to test this.

 

As always look fwd to your help.

 

Scorch :D

[matt1003]

does the rear windows on the opposite side still work ?

the 1 touch relays in these are built into the motor so if it is a relay

its a new motor anyway ?

last time i had this problem it was the wiring in the rubber boot to the door

had 3 wires brokern it would go down but not up

[NikpV]

does the rear windows on the opposite side still work ?

the 1 touch relays in these are built into the motor so if it is a relay

its a new motor anyway ?

 

my ghia only has the one touch operation on the front windows !!

 

interestingly our rear passenger window works on the switch up/down and comes down with the global closing (key held in lock position in drivers door) but will not go up on the global closing - not got around to sorting the broken wire out yet

[scorch21]

Hi,

Once upon a time all my windows were fecked, <_< but now after fixing all the broken wires in door looms they now all work except the pass rear.

Put a meter on the power wire and no juice going through it, even though the quarter ones work????????????

They all open on the global open/closing except that one pigging window and thats stopping me from getting them tinted :)

Took the door card off and traced all wires back to plug in socket and all in tact.

 

CONFUSED.COM.

 

Cheers Scorch

[dansagenius]

Hi Guys,

Through the forum you have helped me fix my elec window problems :lol: , Now the thing is its still the window but there is no power going to the window, the door light works and i have checked all the wires and they are ok. The front passenger one works as does the rear quarter pain, but the rear passenger window wont work ?????? Been told it could be the relay but as the others work im thinking no, im thinking motor is there anyway to test this.

 

As always look fwd to your help.

 

Scorch :lol:

hi to you

 

we have had all four leckies fail over the past three years. the rear left passenger side has gone twice now. faulty relay i found out by fault finding the internal pcb of the mechanism.

[Twicky]

Hi everyone - I'm hoping someone can save my sanity.... I have an electric window problem.

 

Car: 2.3 Zetec Galaxy 2000 model, reg'd Sep 2000. Front elec windows only (so only 2 to go wrong then.... <_< )

 

Original problem: Passenger side front window went down as normal from switch on passenger door one not-so-fine day then steadfastly refused to go back up. Investigated usual stuff - switches, no pool of water under seat, no broken door wires anywhere that I can see etc etc. Decided had to be motor/control assy as 'down' worked fine, 'up' wouldn't even raise a click from the relay. Removed whole regulator assy and resorted to a piece of wood taped inside door to hold glass up. Particularly bad timing as we were just about to go touring in France in it. Toll booths on the peages and kiosks at ferry ports great fun with a stuck left front window!

 

So, back in England, I bought a window regulator/motor assy (suspect early model) from ebay, connected up motor and.... different probem! Window works fine (up & down) from drivers door switch, does nothing at all from passenger door switch and will go down but not up from the key. Have also tried 2nd motor from similar source and exactly the same. Original motor goes down (only) from all 3 still.

 

Is there a wiring difference on the 2000 models? I thought I read somewhere that all Gals were more or less the same re the window motors... Doesn't help that I only have a Mk1 Gal Haynes manual - they don't seem to have published one for the later cars????

 

 

Hoping someone out there can help

 

 

Twicky

Edited June 4, 2008 by Twicky

[NikpV]

I would be having another look at the wiring - I know you've looked once already but a broken conductor inside unbroken insulation is difficult to spot - often needs a second look

[big_kev]

I would definitely suspect the wiring in the door hinge.

[Twicky]

I would definitely suspect the wiring in the door hinge.

 

Thanks for the comments. Too late in day now to do any more on it now, but I am puzzled....

 

Humour me.

 

Orig motor will go down but not up from all 3 controls.

Both replacement motors will go up AND down from driver's door, nothing from passenger door switch and down only from key.

 

That suggests to me that the power connections to motor are ok. As far as I can gather from the (Mk1) wiring diag the other (smaller) wires in the motor plug are from the various switches etc which cause the motor to run. The passenger door switch presumably does not go through the door harness, yet that doesn't work at all with the replacement motors and works in the down direction only with the original motor. I have metered the connections from the passenger door switch through to the motor plug, and it checks out fine.

 

My biggest puzzle is why the symptoms are (consistently) different with the original and replacement motors. Surely this suggests something other than a wiring fault/broken wire? I guessed at a compatibility issue - the motors ostensibly look the same but are slightly different mechanically.

 

Does anyone know where I can find a Mk2 wiring diag??

 

At least I can now use the window, albeit only from drivers door switch.

 

 

Twicky

[NikpV]

one of the problems is that as the doors are opened and closed and the wires disturbed the symptoms change - I have the passenger rear window which usually open and closes from drivers door, opens on global but doent always close on global closure and someties wont open on its own door switch but always closes arrrgh ..., after wiggling rubber boot its ok again - must get round to sorting it out properly