Driver's Window: Glass Not Joined To Mechanism

[Taliska]

G'day again,

 

Stupidly tried to open my driver's window when it was frosted up. Result - something fell down inside, and now the mechanism makes all the right noises, but the glass doesn't move.

 

I'm assuming that the glass and the mechanism have parted company.

 

Any ideas on how easy is it to get inside the door and fix this?

 

Thanks for any help.

 

Cheers,

 

Taliska.

 

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[NikpV]

long time no see ....

 

if you look in the faq - there is a link there for removing the door panel - guess you will need to take a look :D

[Taliska]

> long time no see ....

 

Indeed, life's been just too busy the last couple of years - I don't seem to have a waking moment while I'm not either working or being a school governor. Nice to be remembered, cheers!

 

> if you look in the faq - there is a link there for removing the door panel - guess you will need to take a look

 

Thanks - will have a search and see how it goes today.

 

Taliska

[matt1003]

if you heard something fall in to the door when you tried to

open it chances are the meachanisum is brokern sorry

 

to remove the door panel remove the surround around the door opening handle

should be 2 screws remove those then the rest of the panel is on push clips

just prise the door card off

 

matt

[Taliska]

Hi,

 

Well, did manage to prise the 'door card' off and get inside the door itself okay. The glass is held in two places by metal clamps that attach to white plastic mounts that are driven up and down a couple of runners. Both white plastic mounts were partially damaged by the twisting induced by trying to pull down on seized window, but they still worked ok. The clunk was the sound of one of the metal clamps coming off the plastic mount and falling to the bottom of the door.

 

Have screwed everything back together and the window works as well as it always did - the door card doesn't fit quite as flushly to the door as it should. Methinks that rather than prising the door card off, one should merely push it upwards (very firmly) starting near the door hinge side.

 

Detaching all the wires and door handle cable was easy enough, but did manage not to have the LED working afterwards, so I might have missed that one.

 

Just have to consider whether it's worth replacing the few broken yellow pins and replacing the white plastic mounts (they could be very tricky to do by the looks of it), and trying to get the door card fitting flusher.

 

Thanks for your help, as always, :-)

 

Taliska

[JohnR]

The yellow clips are only 30 or 40 pence IIRC. They nearly always break if you try to remove them on a cold day. If its warm, you stand a better chance of re-using them. The LED is a little 2 pin connector if I remember right.

[Taliska]

Went into the Hendy Trade Counter to have quick check about the white brackets and metal clamps - all come in a single unit with motor and runners etc for

[Taliska]

Well the repair (botch) lasted 5 months until the entrance to the Mont Blanc Tunnel at which point there was clunk as the repaired clamp fell to the bottom of the door. Have no alternative but to drive through the tunnel with the window stuck half open. At the other end of the tunnel, it took two of us to get the window shut - the wife controlling the switch, and me trying to guide the window into the up position with the hand clamped either side of the window.

 

Really decided that it needed to be repaired properly this time, so was prepared to fork out the dough for the window part. Before I went to Ford to get the

Edited August 31, 2008 by Taliska

[Taliska]

Tip #1: When removing the inside handle, prise it out from the front (blue arrow), so that you don't accidentally break the plastic bar (purple ellipse). Mine needed supergluing after being yanked clean off!

[Taliska]

Tip #2: just prise the door opener cable off gently to disconnect the cable from the handle (there's no need to undo the likely-looking screw on the back of the mechanism).

Edited August 31, 2008 by Taliska

[Taliska]

This is what the inside of the door looks like! 5 Screws (green) hold the window mechanism in, 2 cable clips (purple) to secure the cable runners, 2 clamps that hold the window (blue) - these are the clamps that broke!

 

You feed the window mechanism in though the big hole, straighten it all out attaching the black runners near the top two screws (green), then gradually tighten all the screws up.

 

Note that I just pulled the black, non-sticky, sticky sealant stuff off leaving most of it attached to the grey foam sheet / barrier thing - it seems fine to re-use the existing stuff.

[Taliska]

Tip #3: You stick the grey sheet back on, remembering to feed all the cables though the holes, and re-attach the speaker.

 

Note that I've yanked out all the yellow plugs (there's nine of them!) - the tip is: attach the new yellow plugs to the door card!! (This is the way the door cards are delivered to the factory, info courtesy of the man next door who builds cars :-) )

 

Hook the door card on the top of the window sill, locate all the yellow plugs in the holes, and give each one a gentle punch, and in they all pop!

[Taliska]

The door card fits (almost) flushly to the door itself - leastwise a damned sight better that the first attenpt a few months ago!

[Taliska]

Picture of home-made bolt retrieval tool - dropped the dratted thing in the hole after being so careful...

 

P.S. Not sure why all the pictures are shown reduced (will fix if someone PM's me with the answer).

Edited August 31, 2008 by Taliska

[mumof4]

If you click on the pics, they will open in a new window and show larger than in post.

 

pics are reduced in post if thay are a wee bit too big.

 

if they were posted at original size, then it would take up a whoooooooole load of space.

 

 

good pics by the way.I've tangled with door cards many a time.. and a window reg once.. and even that was enough after i took the whole door apart, inc taking the seal off and the window out.

[mumof4]

besides, the pm system is down..and i have no idea when it will be back up again. :angry:

[Taliska]

I'd thought that I'd shunk them down enough - perhaps not.

 

It's a barrel load of fun taking them doors apart :-)

 

Taliska

[seatkid]

Nice reference thread with good pictures....

[Taliska]

>> Nice reference thread with good pictures....

 

Thanks Seatkid - I owe this to everyone who has helped me so far with my Gal. :-)

 

Taliska

[bfdboy]

Had similar problem - window not working.

 

On door card removal process note - they are 10mm bolts not screws -

BE careful not to drop them - fortunately I dropped one when removing so easy to retrieve.

One of the plastic door runners had broken and the glass detached from the clamps.

Managed to fix with the mechanism in place .

I lowered the mechanism (by reconnecting the switches) til it was in view of the holes.

 

Then unclipped the runner from the black metal mechanism.

unclipped the cable .

Attached the non sprung cable first then the sprung.

 

Undid the Torq screw on the clamps slid the glass down into the clamps and tightened.

 

 

Hey presto all worked.

 

Then put it all back together. just as it started raining - so didn't get too wet