junglejim Posted January 8, 2008 Report Posted January 8, 2008 HELP PLEASE! I've got a 2001 Galaxy 1.9tdi (115ps) which I understand is the PD engine. The car was running well until last Thursday when I set off for my new job - about 15 miles from home. It started ok and ran ok for about 1 1/2 miles then started to misfire when accelerating. I managed to limp to work, turned if of and restarted it several times before I went into work. The real problems started when I went home. It started ok and ran fine for about a mile then started to misfire. I drove about 3miles and it cut out dead and wouldn't start. I left it about 10 mins and it started again and stopped again about 1/4mile further on. It did this again and finally gave up at the traffic lights of a busy island over the M1 - in rush hour! I finaly got home about 4 hours later! I've changed the fuel filter and it now starts and will tick over for hours. It appears to rev ok and will drive, without misfire - even when hot - for about a mile before cutting out and not starting for a while. I've read threads about the 109 relay, so I've taken it out and it is the new grey one. Has any one had a problem with the grey relay or any pointers as to what this could be. I'm banging my head against a wall and have been demoted to a Citroen Saxo 1.0, which is a bit like one of those half size bean cans - only slower and more horrible! Quote
junglejim Posted January 17, 2008 Author Report Posted January 17, 2008 I changed the relay as it was only Quote
junglejim Posted January 17, 2008 Author Report Posted January 17, 2008 I think I'm going to get a vag com lead of ebay. I've managed to get a full copy of Ross tech Vag Com (3 different versions) but I'm not sure what lead to get. The Gal is a 2001 1.9TDi pd engine. Any pointers would be great. Quote
Beyond Help? Posted January 18, 2008 Report Posted January 18, 2008 I wish I could suggest something, but a problem like this is very difficult to solve without being there when it happens. Are you loosing ALL the electrics or just the engine? Quote
junglejim Posted January 18, 2008 Author Report Posted January 18, 2008 Its just the engine, the electric all appear fine - its just like someone turns off the ignition but all the lights are on Quote
Beyond Help? Posted January 22, 2008 Report Posted January 22, 2008 I am thinking ECU engine temperature sensor causing overfuelling but that would not really explain the whole 'cutting out' it should just make it smoke a bit black. Quote
junglejim Posted January 23, 2008 Author Report Posted January 23, 2008 I've been back out to it today and started it up as normal (after charging the battery). I left it running until fully warm, turned it of and on, rev'd it and drove it on and off the drive - without any hint of a fault. Then I decided to drive it to the end of the road........and it cut out and wouldn't start! I managed to push it back - something I'm getting good at - and checked round the engine for any loose wires or anything. I'm now in the process of checking the fuel to eliminate a blockage. I also bought an ebay vag com lead, which I couldn't get working at the time it stopped. I managed to get it working by ticking 'force dumb mode'. The only fault in there was 17978 - Engine Start Blocked by Immobilizer P1570 - 35-00 - -. I've cleared it (just in case it wasn't related) and I'm going try again. Watch this space - or the horizon for smoke from a burning Galaxy Quote
Beyond Help? Posted January 24, 2008 Report Posted January 24, 2008 Perhaps it suffers from agoraphobia? It always seems to go when your at the end of your road! Quote
junglejim Posted January 24, 2008 Author Report Posted January 24, 2008 that's it - maybe its not me that needs a psychiatrist.......its the car!! Quote
junglejim Posted January 29, 2008 Author Report Posted January 29, 2008 I have managed to get Vagcom connected and try it. For a brief moment - I thought I'd fixed it! It went to the end of the road twice. Unfortunately, I tried it again and it cut out and I had to get a neighbour to help push it back. I'm running out of neighbours to ask now! The vagcom didn't show any errors so I'm no further on! Quote
big_kev Posted January 31, 2008 Report Posted January 31, 2008 It does sound like an immobiliser fault....however I would first check the operation of the brake pedal switches, easy to do although my money would still be on the immobiliser. Quote
junglejim Posted February 1, 2008 Author Report Posted February 1, 2008 [quote name='big_kev' post='124433' date='Jan 31 2008, 22:00:32']It does sound like an immobiliser fault....however I would first check the operation of the brake pedal switches, easy to do although my money would still be on the immobiliser.[/quote] Thanks for replying I did wonder about the immobiliser, but when the car stopped it didn't show a fault - so I half ruled it out. Could a fault with the transponder in the key cause it? I changed the brake light switch about 18months ago - I lost the brake lights and the glow plug warning light flashed. I'll have a look round and check it. Anyway, we haven't got any snow here so I'll be outside again tomorrow If I don't fix it, I'll have to get a job at the end of the road - I know it can get me there. Quote
Stevoo Posted February 2, 2008 Report Posted February 2, 2008 Shame your not local to me, i have an OBD2 reader which can check any error codes stored on ECU. Try a local garage and get them to plug it into an ecu reader. If you have standard immobliser then it will appear as a fault, if it is a faulty immob. When the car cuts out, open drivers door remove key, then put key back in and switch igniton on, so all lights come up on the dash. You should here the fuel pump buzz/prime. If it doesnt then i can be the Immob or the pink fuel relay thats faulty. Mine was the relay which burnt out as I had the same sorter problems as you. Quote
junglejim Posted February 3, 2008 Author Report Posted February 3, 2008 I've just been out and replaced the battery - the old one had completely died! It started straight away so I put it back on the drive. I decided to check the fuel so I took off the inlet pipe to the filter and connect another pipe to a can of diesel. The car started ok and ended up with diesel all over the drive from the inlet pipe - which suggested that there probably wasn't a blockage back to the tank I put it back together - with a new clip on the pipe and started it (with spare key) with vagcon connected. I ran it up to full temp and decided to test it....... It drove to the end of the road and back 3 times (where are the party emoticons?) Anyway, I then drove it on to the main road twice and it hasn't stopped!! I'm not counting my chickens and I'm very nervous of driving very far - but this has to be a step in the right direction - hopefully . There was one problem - when I turned it off, I thought I'd restart it and it didn't want to start until I put my foot flat on the floor. I'm not to bothered so long as I can drive it I'm going to try it again and go a bit further. If it works I'll try and find out what the problem was - maybe Quote
junglejim Posted February 3, 2008 Author Report Posted February 3, 2008 Back to square one I took it for a drive and got about a mile before it cut out! I waited about 5/10 mins before I tried to start it - it did start, but I had to crank it for a while and pump the accelerator several times. I got it back home but it was misfiring up hill in 3rd and then it cut out - just as I pulled on tp the drive. I've tried it shorter distances since and the same thing happens. There are no fault codes on vagcom. I've got a log of the measuring blocks and now I have to work them out. Anyone got know what to compare them to? Quote
gaznlou Posted February 4, 2008 Report Posted February 4, 2008 Jim Now this is a real long shot!!! I had the same kind of problem in Oct, when putting it on the Reader (it came up with Crank Pos sensor) Order one from Ford, while looking under the bonnet I noticed a very small wire, (this went to the sensor) which had broken but the two halfs were just touching, hence start up fine, but when driving under load, it just cut out, While driving I switched the key off and back on again (not reckomended) this kept me going until I got home, Joined the 2 halfs together again, not had a problem since. (touch Wood) Like I say long shot, but worth the look. Gaz Quote
junglejim Posted February 4, 2008 Author Report Posted February 4, 2008 Thanks gaznlou You're the 2nd person to mention that - I've been poking round the vwaudi forum - he said to watch the measuring blocks in vagcom, so I asked him which ones. This is his response - 'Any that shows engine revs, what you have to do is watch the revs with the engine not responding but in gear to keep it turning, its awkward to do and you really need an assistant to watch the screen. It may just be easier to take a chance on changing the sender.' I've tried watching the measuring blocks when it stalled - its flippin difficult, especially when you're turning a corner! The other thing is there are no error codes - but I'm clutching at straws now. So, has anyone got any idea as to how much they are and are they available from gsf or the likes. It might be cold and dark but I think I'll go and check the wires now - just in case! Quote
gaznlou Posted February 5, 2008 Report Posted February 5, 2008 No problem, hope this solves it Gaz Quote
junglejim Posted February 7, 2008 Author Report Posted February 7, 2008 Does anyone know where the crank sensor is on the 2001 1.9tdi? I've had a look at TIS but it isn't too clear - it makes it look like it is easy to see. Unless I'm going blind (although I am due for some new glasses ) I can't see it anywhere. I think I've aged about 10years since this fault started!!! Quote
junglejim Posted February 17, 2008 Author Report Posted February 17, 2008 Well, I tried another crank sensor - without success but, I think I have taken a step forward towards sorting this fault. I put a piece of clear pipe between the fuel filter and pump and there were quite a few air bubbles in the pipe. I then took the pipe from the filter put in a can of diesel - so the pump took the fuel direct from the can. There were no bubbles in the pipe. I haven't fully tested this yet but I suspect that fuel starvation is the cause. Has anyone else encountered this? Quote
junglejim Posted February 23, 2008 Author Report Posted February 23, 2008 I think I've just about solved the problem. Its been a real pain and I've considered trying to get someone to nick it - trouble is, they wouldn't get beyond the end of the road!!!! It's been made worse because there have been times when I couldn't work on it for days on end. I found out - with the aid of some clear pipe - that the diesel appeared to be sucking air. I tried the pipe in various places until it looked like the problem was between the tank and the filter. I did consider getting some long clear pipe and bypassing the main fuel line fortunately, I couldn't get any long enough. So I took up the carpet and plate and took out the sender/pump. The pump sits in a plastic container and looked to be full of nastyness so I took it to bits. There is a filter in the bottom and it was well and truly blocked!! Anyway, I cleaned it with carb cleaner and put it all back together and tested it. I've managed to drive for a couple of miles and it pulled better than it had for months! It has stalled a couple of times and I had to spin it over for a while to get it to start - but at least it now goes beyond the end of the road!!! I'm going to take for a good run tomorrow and see what happens - watch this space! Quote
Sullb01 Posted February 4, 2018 Report Posted February 4, 2018 Hi i know this post was from years ago but i have exactly the same issue, did you manage to fix it? Quote
Sullb01 Posted February 4, 2018 Report Posted February 4, 2018 Hi i know this post was from years ago but i have exactly the same issue, did you manage to fix it? Quote
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