Online License Renewal

[big_kev]

Well my last penalty points have expired from my license....decided to send of for a new one.

 

Luckily I "forgot" to inform DVLA when I moved house last year and it still has the old address on and therefore won't cost me to get it changed.

 

 

Tried filling in the online form to request a new license...

 

It was adamant that I do not require glasses to drive ( even though I do and indeed I wore them when I took my test, many moons ago ) in the end I agreed with it and said I do not need glasses, will be interesting to see what it says on the new license.

 

Lets see how long it takes to put some points back on it.

 

Actually lets see how long it takes to arrive first... ;)

[mumof4]

tu tut BK, you can get fined for not telling DVLA when you move .. ;)

[big_kev]

Only if they know about it..... ;)

 

Besides its a difficult thing to prove.....

[gregers]

my license didnt have the current address on it and i didnt get fined when i got pulled over 1 night,(suspicious 2 blokes in a van)at 130am but luckily i did have my insurance on me to prove everything in fact the 2 coppers laughed coz i had moved a couple of years previously ;) mind you it was the same old chestnut when they approached the drivers window,HAVE YOU BEEN DRINKING SIR because i can smell alcohol,er no you cant,then it must be your mate then(who was fast asleep catching flies)always amazes me is they pull you over because theyve spotted something then the first thing they say is i can smell alcohol,in my case they had spotted that i didnt have the hasp and staple attached the the rear door and assumed i might of stolen the van(i didnt mind in getting stopped)just it took them 15 mins to tell me.

[big_kev]

Yep its a strange one the old drinik driving.

 

Who is worse someone who is sober and drives like an idiot or someone whose judgement is impaired because of alcohol and drives a bit iffy ?

 

For every other crime ( ie if you had punched someone or just generally done something daft) they would take into account that you had been drinking and this would count in your favour.

 

However for driving it seems to be the opposite !

[Bigjeeze]

The drunk is worse He/she doesn't know they are driving badly - so they are likely to do more damage. There is NO excusing drinking and driving - and the sooner we lower our limit to zero the happier I'll be.

 

I have never understood why we excuse people who do stupid or criminal things when under the influence of alcohol - they are only under the influence because of a choice they made to drink in the first place. Alcohol is n excuse for crime - the intent is there they just need their inhibtions lowering - or dutch courage as it used to be called.

 

LOCK EM ALL UP!!!

[Saif Rehman]

The drunk is worse He/she doesn't know they are driving badly - so they are likely to do more damage. There is NO excusing drinking and driving - and the sooner we lower our limit to zero the happier I'll be.

 

I have never understood why we excuse people who do stupid or criminal things when under the influence of alcohol - they are only under the influence because of a choice they made to drink in the first place. Alcohol is n excuse for crime - the intent is there they just need their inhibtions lowering - or dutch courage as it used to be called.

 

LOCK EM ALL UP!!!

 

 

Here, here!

[mumof4]

?

 

For every other crime ( ie if you had punched someone or just generally done something daft) they would take into account that you had been drinking and this would count in your favour.

 

However for driving it seems to be the opposite !

 

 

could have something to do with the potential accident that can happen when drink driving that will not only harm yourself but others around you that may be in your path.

 

When i was at Lyneham, a drink driver ploughed down the street hitting nearly every car ( mine included as he took the front bumper off and caused 1 and a half k worth of damage) he came to rest parked outside his front door. The police when they finally arrived had to climb over his car to get to the front door.

 

also at lyneham a 15 yr old kid was hit and killed just outside my estate by a drunk driver.

 

my own sister killed herself high on drugs and drink not so long ago by slamming into a wall at over 60mph.She orphaned 4 boys.Drink driving can have a knock on effect on all of those touched by it by it either by harming someone or loseing your licence.

 

There is no excuse for drink driving.

[big_kev]

The drunk is worse He/she doesn't know they are driving badly -

 

This is my point !

 

Whilst I agree entirely that driving whilst drunk is, and should be, punishable.

 

What I am getting at is the difference in the way the law treats people.

 

Someone who drives recklessly and dangerously ( even without insurance, driving license etc) is deemed to be less of a criminal than someone of otherwise good character who gets pulled and is just over the limit.

 

I agree about choice, but surely these people choose to drive recklessly and certainly choose to drive without insurance and license.

[gregers]

i do agree about the level it should be set to zero,

this is the same old chess nut about driving without a license or insurance when the arseholes who continue doing it finally get caught they get a paltry fine until the authorities put the fines into perspective then there really is no way they are going to be persuaded to change.

[big_kev]

i do agree about the level it should be set to zero,

 

Tests have shown that below 10mg of alcohol per 100ml of blood there is no observable difference in behaviour or reaction times.

 

The obvious worry about zero is that you could have a small amount of alcohol in your blood through medication and food, or even absorption through the skin from perfumes etc.......what about passive drinking where your drunken mate breathes on you.. :wacko:

 

You could lower the limit from 80mg down to 40mg or even 20mg but I think at the moment its about right, in my opinion.

 

The only way zero would work would be to introduce a ban on the sale and consumption of alcohol, which may or may not be a good thing......"I wish they would do this with fags"

[gregers]

"I wish they would do this with fags"

 

is this coming from a reformed smoker?or someone who thinks its easy to give up the dreaded weed?

 

everyone who smokes at the wheel needs to take heed on the fact if you have an accident the the police will very likely prosecute you for careless driving or driving without due care(smoking at the wheel).iirc as amended in the new version of the highway code.

[big_kev]

Yep I smoke too much and don't have the willpower to stop....this would make it easier.

 

However the Highway code amendment...........its no different from any other form of undue care and attention....if you take your eyes of the road or hands of the wheel whilst doing it then yes it could be described as this....so could changing gear, dipping your rear view mirror...quite deadly that one, udjusting your sunvisor.....and my personal favourite wearing sunglasses when not sunny...although technically this is driving with vision impaired.

 

This is down to the Tobacco Taliban and the Halfwit Road Safety Minister ( Jim Fitzpatrick )....Honest he's not that intelligent.

 

Who I quote "If you're lighting up with one hand and have a fag in the other hand then obviously you've not got any hands on the wheel"

 

I am sorry, who lights up a fag like that ?......you put a fag in your gob with one hand whilst the other is on the wheel and you then light it with one hand on the wheel and the other on the lighter....(does anyone still use matches anymore).....surely he could have checked his facts first....typical Labour idiot.

 

Anyhow the fact I was rolling a fag whilst driving up the M1 is besides the point....this is why you have cruise control and knees... :wacko:

[broom broom]

i am child who's father was killed by drink driving

 

my dad probably thought nothing of getting behind the wheel but it's been 20 years since he died and i can honestly say it still hurts (god i have tears!)

 

i can't tollerate drink driving i hate it i can't see an excuse for it

 

when you've had a few you probably don't think anything bad can happen but it can my dad over took another car and was hit head on by another car the car burst into flames and he died instanly luckly the other driver wasn't seriously hurt and the only fatality was my dad

 

i know it wasn't my fault but i somehow in that child like way feel partly responsible for what happend as he was bring me a jacket because i'd went out without one

 

am sure if he'd have known what the repecutions would have been he wouldn't have done it but he did and i and my family will live with it till the end of our days

 

zero tollerance is the only way forward but sad to say i don't think it will stop some people from getting behind the wheel after drinking

[gregers]

Anyhow the fact I was rolling a fag whilst driving up the M1 is besides the point....this is why you have cruise control and knees... laugh.gif

 

aahaaa thats if your cruise control works? :wacko:

 

bit like that other dimwit who got caught talking on his phone"i was talking about a very important issue over immigration" oh thats alright then,we wont fine you too much or make an example out of you,er was he paying 100% to the issue on the phone or the fact that he was BLOODY DRIVING?

[big_kev]

Just reminded me of a useful tip if you get pulled for using a mobile by an unmarked car...

 

hang up quickly...dial 999..." Help me please I have this suspicious person following me !"

 

Worth a try...what have you got to lose... :wacko:

[galaxytony]

i also agree that there should be a zero tolerance on drink driving i was in a crash when i was a kid and my dad was driving i even remember the car a ford anglia 105E 2 door no seatbelts i was in the back with my 2 sisters sitting behind my mum . my mum had insisted that my dad take us shopping as it was christmas he had been drinking at work christmas drink up driving down the road he swerved to avoid an imaginary car side swiped a few parked cars and ripped open the whole side of the anglia i remember headbutting my mum in the back of the head and then just stepping out the side of the car the police came and arested my dad i found out that they gave him a beating in the cells cause when he came home he was a bit sore i still remember that crash to this day and that was about 33 years ago and i can take you to the exact spot where it happened to think how lucky we were to get out with minor injurys my dad didnt drive again for about ten years and they say kids always remember the bad things

[big_kev]

Well I am impressed.....New license turned up today....nice and clean.

Both paper and photo license.

 

That's not bad...ordered online on the 5th arrived in the post on the 8th.

 

They must have nothing to do at the DVLA.... :P

[familyman]

i also agree that there should be a zero tolerance on drink driving i was in a crash when i was a kid and my dad was driving i even remember the car a ford anglia 105E 2 door no seatbelts i was in the back with my 2 sisters sitting behind my mum . my mum had insisted that my dad take us shopping as it was christmas he had been drinking at work christmas drink up driving down the road he swerved to avoid an imaginary car side swiped a few parked cars and ripped open the whole side of the anglia i remember headbutting my mum in the back of the head and then just stepping out the side of the car the police came and arested my dad i found out that they gave him a beating in the cells cause when he came home he was a bit sore i still remember that crash to this day and that was about 33 years ago and i can take you to the exact spot where it happened to think how lucky we were to get out with minor injurys my dad didnt drive again for about ten years and they say kids always remember the bad things

"Gave him a beating in the cells" that is what you call a pro-active approach to policing !