How Can I Tell If I Have A 90 Or 110 Bhp Tdi

[si.miller]

Bought my 98 R plate Ghia X on Saturday I was told by previous owner its supposed to be a 110 bhp but cant see anything any where to prove it and it doesnt drive different to his sons 90bhp but that is probably die to the running faults I have previously posted ( wont go over 3000 revs) I still havent been able to insure her, online as soon as I put in 98 or the reg no its coming up as a 90 bhp with no option to change it to a 110 my broker also is telling me its a 90 bhp now i have no problem paying for the insurance but I am sure if i had an accident further down the road they would decline to pay out.

My Neighbour who has the same Galaxy remembers he had exactly the same problems but has had his for a few years now and cant remember how he found out!

Parkers price guide list the only tdi Ghia x option for that year as being 110 bhp

is there any way I can tell?

[fastphil]

doesn,t it say on your log book?

[si.miller]

It may well say on the registration doc but that has been sent off by previous owner and I need to get insurance cant really wait for it to come back before i sort the insurance out!

I do assume though with the previous owner saying he hasnt seen anything to prove its a 110 its not actually on the log book.

[adrianf.]

I think youll find its to do with the engine number which will be on the the reg doc.

 

Try a search, i know ive read things like this before on here.

 

Adrian.

[Charlie]

Have a look in "Questions about the Galaxy" section for "Which Power?"

 

Its explained in there

[AndeeeH]

The 110 engine was introduced into vehicles built on or after 03/11/97. The vehicle build code is VD and the engine designation is AFN. Look on the VIN plate which should be attached to the B pillar, passenger side, digits 12 and 13 in the VIN number in the second long box down give the year and month of build. V for 1997 D for Nov.

If you dont have those letters let me know and I will try and decipher the ones you have. :ph34r: Andy.

[Saif Rehman]

When i bought my Galaxy last year and when i was online looking for insurance quotes, when entering only the vehicle registartion number 99% of the time it came up with all the vehicles details, eg Make, Model, Trim, Year of Registration and the bhp of the engine.

Worth a try if you dont have the registration documents to hand.

[si.miller]

The 110 engine was introduced into vehicles built on or after 03/11/97. The vehicle build code is VD and the engine designation is AFN. Look on the VIN plate which should be attached to the B pillar, passenger side, digits 12 and 13 in the VIN number in the second long box down give the year and month of build. V for 1997 D for Nov.

If you dont have those letters let me know and I will try and decipher the ones you have. :ph34r: Andy.

Thanks for that after finding the post Charlie suggested I looked for the "W" ratings which should be either 60 or 80 W the only sticker i can find there said 95W shes at the garage for diagnostics at the minute so I cant get the numbers until it comes back IF i get it back I will post it later looked around in the dark and couldnt find the engine number had so much trouble starting it this morning after the frost didnt have time to look further before it went for the diagnostics.

 

 

Worth a try if you dont have the registration documents to hand.

This is what is causing me the problems it was sold at a 110 and the previous owner told me he couldnt find anything to prove its a 110 but when hes done quotes online its told him its a 110 .....5 insurance quotes online are telling me its a 90 bhp so i dont know where he has been doing his!

I have now had a quote from Tesco insurance which is the first company to list the 110 as being an option very strange though if its a 90 its more expensive than the 100!

 

 

I would just like to thank every one who has tried to help its greatly appreciated

[Saif Rehman]

I think we all jumped in first without thinking methodically............ Since it's a Ford Galaxy, built by Ford surely then a quick phone call to the local Ford dealership will resolve this scenario. :16:

[Dave-G]

try your reg number in this...

 

Motor Insurance database

[mrchipz]

Have you got a TDI badge on the tailgate.

If its a red I then it will be a 110.

Alsoi check your cambelt cover.

There should be a sticker on the top with a barcode.

Along with the bar code there will be a code for the engine type.

Mine is a 1Z (early 90hp tdi). All other engine codes are 3 letters like AFN.

Find your 3 letters and do a search.

[mumof4]

try your reg number in this...

 

Motor Insurance database

 

well thats odd, i put in my old gals reg number and it says that she is a 110bhp..but i know she is a 115 :16:

 

All that comes up with my veccy is that she is on the database.

[si.miller]

I have tried calling ford there only answer was the red bit on the badge, lol I am not sure I risk insuring my car on the strentgh of the col of the badge on the back especially as they are so asy to change. I have also checked on the insurance data base and that shows as a 90 on there but as Mum of 4 posted hers is also showing incorrect! The previous owner definatly said when he put in the reg no on line for insurance it instantly came up at 110 and that was the only proof he had found that it was 100 I have now found it needs a replacement part for the turbo to solve the running problems ( see my other post) and the turbos are different on the 90 and 110

We dont seem to have the engine no sticker my vin does have VD ( 11 and 12th digit) is the engine number anywhere else other than a sticker?

[AndeeeH]

We dont seem to have the engine no sticker my vin does have VD ( 11 and 12th digit) is the engine number anywhere else other than a sticker?

 

That will be the 12th and 13th digits because the 1st digit is always *, so from the info in my previous post it appears that your vehicle was built in November 1997 with the 110 being introduced on 3/11/97 which was a Monday. :lol: Andy

[si.miller]

That will be the 12th and 13th digits because the 1st digit is always *, so from the info in my previous post it appears that your vehicle was built in November 1997 with the 110 being introduced on 3/11/97 which was a Monday. :lol: Andy

Thankyou.......... I didnt realise the * was counted! and good news for me as that seems to be a lot cheaper for a turbo! now to get an insurance company that will recognise the right model lol wouldnt have had this problem if the entire log book is handed over to the new owner to send on.

[big_kev]

The easiest way is the sticker on the Belt Cover.....just about visible below the MAF..

 

You should see the engine type...1Z...AHU...AFN.....quite clearly below the bar code.

 

 

 

Note: Autos will not be 1Z or AHU....they will be AFN's on the early MK1 models.

 

Strangely I always thought mine was an AFN ( I am sure I seen this somewhere ) but the belt cover says AHU ....I will have to dig out my Log Book...and investigate further.

 

Probably explains why its flat as a fart... :(

[insider]

We dont seem to have the engine no sticker my vin does have VD ( 11 and 12th digit) is the engine number anywhere else other than a sticker?

 

That will be the 12th and 13th digits because the 1st digit is always *, so from the info in my previous post it appears that your vehicle was built in November 1997 with the 110 being introduced on 3/11/97 which was a Monday. :( Andy

 

Your VIN number gives a build date of 27/11/97 but doesn't specify whether it is 90 or 110bhp. If your sticker is missing then you'll need to find the engine number stamped on the block. It will start AHU...(90bhp) or AFN...(110bhp).

 

The differences between the 90 and 110bhp engines were intake and exhaust system and a variable nozzle turbocharger on the 110bhp.

[AndeeeH]

110 put into vehicles built on or after 03/11/97 'TIS said.

Vehicle in question built on 27/11/97, which is AFTER 03/11/97, should therefore have a 110!! e&oe

[big_kev]

The early 1Z 90bhp engines were produced up until July 1996

 

The 90bhp AHU engines were produced from Aug 1996.

The ANU 90bhp engine appeared in Mar 1999, and continued through to the MK2's although the AHU continued for a while only on the MK1's.

 

The 110bhp AFN engines started to appear in Dec 1996 on the Autos and then in Jan 1997 on the manuals.

They were replaced by the AVG 110bhp engine in Aug 1999 this was replaced when the mk2's appeared.

 

No 90bhp were produced with Automatic Gearboxes, manual only.

[insider]

110 put into vehicles built on or after 03/11/97 'TIS said.

Vehicle in question built on 27/11/97, which is AFTER 03/11/97, should therefore have a 110!! e&oe

No, you can only say that if it was built before 3/11/97 it must be a 90bhp. After 3/11/97 it could be either because they fitted both 90bhp and 110bhp engines after that date.

 

The 110bhp AFN engines started to appear in Dec 1996 on the Autos and then in Jan 1997 on the manuals.

 

Don't you mean Dec 1997 and Jan 1998 as the 110bhp wasn't introduced until Nov 1997?

If big_kev's information is right then it must be 90bhp because it is a manual and the 110bhp wasn't put into a manual vehicle until Jan 1998.

[big_kev]

The 110bhp AFN engines started to appear in Dec 1996 on the Autos and then in Jan 1997 on the manuals.

 

Don't you mean Dec 1997 and Jan 1998 as the 110bhp wasn't introduced until Nov 1997?

 

If big_kev's information is right then it must be 90bhp because it is a manual and the 110bhp wasn't put into a manual vehicle until Jan 1998.

 

 

Don't know where you get "110bhp wasn't introduced until Nov 1997" from !

 

 

Er no !

 

Please re-read whate you quoted me on. ! :lol:

[gaznlou]

Try this, not always acurate though.....

http://www.rac.co.uk/web/vehiclechecks/status_checks/

 

FORGET it this does not give BHP unless you pay, Send me a PM with either REG or VIN number, I will be able to tell you what it is.

Gaz

Edited October 23, 2007 by gaznlou

[insider]

Don't know where you get "110bhp wasn't introduced until Nov 1997" from !

 

 

Er no !

 

Please re-read whate you quoted me on. ! :lol:

 

 

Quote from Ford TIS - "A new 1,9 litre TDI diesel engine giving 81 kW/110 PS is installed in Galaxy from 11/97."

This concurs with AdeeeH's post. Where did you get your information from?

I assumed you had just got the years mixed up and meant 1997 when you'd said 1996?

[big_kev]

Quote from Ford TIS - "A new 1,9 litre TDI diesel engine giving 81 kW/110 PS is installed in Galaxy from 11/97."

This concurs with AdeeeH's post. Where did you get your information from?

I assumed you had just got the years mixed up and meant 1997 when you'd said 1996?

 

Interesting....

 

Wonder if anyone has an AFN engine earlier than NOV 1997 ....?

[marinabrid]

we have a 97 90hp and a 98 110 they are very different to drive, the 90 wont pull in higher gears with much gusto, whereas the 110 even in 4 th or 5th at very low speeds zooms away with no trouble, you can easy go round tight corners in 4th and and have no trouble pulling but the 90 needs dropping to 3rd or its chugging.