Immobiliser Fault?

[cody]

Hi fisrtly what a great site lots of information available.

I am new here and like most i guess have found this site whilst looking for information regarding the ford Galaxy.

 

I have a 1997 2.8 V6 4X4 Auto.

The problem is that is will not start, when the key is placed in the ignition the led in the drivers door flashes fast.

 

The main battery had to be replaced as it was completly flat as was the battery in the i/r remote key fob.

 

Now if I try to start the thing nothing happens, the starter does not energise and I can't hear the fuel pump.

 

If I leave the ignition in the run position and put a live the the starter soleniod the engine will start for about a second then cut out, if I try to start it again without turning the key back to the off position first then it will not start again.

 

The key fob will not open the doors either (yes I have followed the instructions posts in FAQs)

 

Any ideas?

 

Cheers

[seatkid]

Did the immobiliser chip fall out of the key when you changed the batteries? (common occurence)

 

IR keys have two batteries I think.

Edited September 3, 2007 by seatkid

[cody]

Did the immobiliser chip fall out of the key when you changed the batteries? (common occurence)

 

IR keys have two batteries I think.

 

 

I hope not how big would it have been?

what does it look like?

 

If i take the key apart where would the chip be?

 

Cheers

[seatkid]

Try here

[cody]

Try here

 

Thanks

Guess I will have to trace my steps backwards now.

 

Pulled key apart and I can see where the chip should sit, but you where right its not there.

If I can't find it what options do I have?

I have an Auto electricain booked for Wednesday but would prefer to fix it myself and save some money.

 

Thanks for the help.

[seatkid]

Do you not have a spare key?

 

Where did you change the key battery?.....At home?....think.....

 

.....afraid my knowledge is limited in this area.

 

If you try searching the forum, there have been several topics on keys, immobilisers etc

[NikpV]

Try here

 

Thanks

Guess I will have to trace my steps backwards now.

 

Pulled key apart and I can see where the chip should sit, but you where right its not there.

If I can't find it what options do I have?

I have an Auto electricain booked for Wednesday but would prefer to fix it myself and save some money.

 

Thanks for the help.

 

 

will depend on the version of the system you have - IIRC it changed in 1997 from the 'red security key required to program new keys' top the 2 working keys needed to program a third. If you have the first system and the red key you can probablty sort it for

[cody]

will depend on the version of the system you have - IIRC it changed in 1997 from the 'red security key required to program new keys' top the 2 working keys needed to program a third. If you have the first system and the red key you can probablty sort it for

[cody]

What next?

 

Can any suggest where to buy a new key or immobiliser chip?

 

How much should I expect to pay?

 

Does this have to go back to Ford if so do they need the car?

 

Cheers

[cody]

Looking through some more threads does the V6 have relay 30?

 

I am sure that when I looked last night there was no relay present (30 or 27)

 

Anyone know?

Edited September 4, 2007 by cody

[seatkid]

It definitely has a fuel pump relay - it is buried in a multi level fuse box -

A guide of how to find the relays (MkII but should also apply to Mk I)

Edited September 4, 2007 by seatkid

[gregers]

try ebay ive just recently bought another key but make sure it has the same code(mhz)as the 1 you have already,hopefully it will come with a chip in it,but as nik says it all depends on the version you have.

[NikpV]

do you have the little domes near the rear view mirror and tailgate - if so then its an infra red (IrD) based system and you will need that read key (handle is red if its anything like my R reg escort key). If you have the radio version you probably have the updated 2 keys to program any more (you cant cheat and use one key twice GREGERS :16: :16: its wise to that :D ) Sounds like you need to get your car to the dealer :rolleyes: although an auto locksmith may be able to help although they have been very few details on here where they can sort out this type of problem :16: . This could be expensive - lets say

[cody]

do you have the little domes near the rear view mirror and tailgate - if so then its an infra red (IrD) based system and you will need that read key (handle is red if its anything like my R reg escort key). If you have the radio version you probably have the updated 2 keys to program any more (you cant cheat and use one key twice GREGERS :lol: :lol: its wise to that :D ) Sounds like you need to get your car to the dealer ;) although an auto locksmith may be able to help although they have been very few details on here where they can sort out this type of problem ;) . This could be expensive - lets say