Got Rid Of My Diesel

[El Dingo]

Yes, really. No more Audi A4, so no more silly jokes about it I'm afraid.

 

It really was rubbish.

 

I drove a 2.0T petrol version of the same car, and it felt like a totally different car. 2.0TDi is a tractor engine (with Massey Harris Ferguson stamped on the engine block).

 

Now I've just got to get rid of my 'interim' car... yes, you've guessed. Another diesel. :lol:

[adrianf.]

So a 2LTR turbo petrol goes better than a 2LTR turbo diesel

Well what ever next :lol:

[El Dingo]

So a 2LTR turbo petrol goes better than a 2LTR turbo diesel

Well what ever next :o

 

Well, yes, but that's not what I meant, as I'm sure you understand.

[El Dingo]

Mind you, it's so true, isn't it? Quite apart from the refinement and driveability of the petrol version.

 

You shouldn't be fooled by 0 - 60 times, however. The 2.0T does 60 in second gear, so it'll show a much quicker time to 60 than the diseasel, that needs an extra (time consuming) gear change.

[Andrew T]

You were caught on camera taking a test drive............

[adrianf.]

Nice bit of car control there.

[tim-spam]

Time-consuming gearchanges (jerky as well perhaps?), stalling frequently, etc.? Sounds a bit 'BSM' to me. But then again, it's obviously the car...perhaps you may prefer an automatic (a little easier to drive).

 

After all, the A4 2.0 TDI gets really bad write-ups in the press (as do all modern diesels), and the 2.0 TDI I've been driving lately must have been fitted with a petrol engine by mistake because the gearchanges seemed swift and smooth and it didn't stall once (fuel economy seemed pretty good as well). There was no sign of Massey Ferguson stamped on the engine block either - that may actually be because it was made by someone else - who knows? I really will have to find out which tractors are fitted with the 2.0 TDI engine...

[El Dingo]

You were caught on camera taking a test drive............

 

That's even like my old car... I used to have a S6 like that. :rolleyes:

[El Dingo]

Time-consuming gearchanges (jerky as well perhaps?), stalling frequently, etc.? Sounds a bit 'BSM' to me. But then again, it's obviously the car...perhaps you may prefer an automatic (a little easier to drive).

 

After all, the A4 2.0 TDI gets really bad write-ups in the press (as do all modern diesels), and the 2.0 TDI I've been driving lately must have been fitted with a petrol engine by mistake because the gearchanges seemed swift and smooth and it didn't stall once (fuel economy seemed pretty good as well). There was no sign of Massey Ferguson stamped on the engine block either - that may actually be because it was made by someone else - who knows? I really will have to find out which tractors are fitted with the 2.0 TDI engine...

 

:rolleyes:

Nice one. I bet you can even see the inside of your own teeth!

:D

[El Dingo]

Just to clarify (assuming that there isn't a deliberate misunderstanding here), the 2.0TDi is quicker than the figures would suggest. The diesel needs to be in third gear to reach 60, the petrol will reach 60 in second. Whether petrol or diesel, the gearchange takes time and, of course, the car isn't accelerating during the gear change (unless you indulge in trick changes. Doesn't mean it's any good, any fun, or remotely refined, however.

 

Funnily enough, the A4 gearbox is very good, once you ignore the initial 'crunchiness' when brand new. It might even be the very same box in both cars...

 

Assuming that because the press write nice things about a car means that it's good is like saying that Coronation Street must be intellectual and informative TV because it commands so many column inches. For example, the 70's Honda 250 SuperDream - extremely popular, received good reviews (not really surprising, as the bike sold so well and these were owned by the readers of the magazines where the reviews appeared) and was, in fact, total and utter pants. Like the A4 2.0TDi.

 

:rolleyes:

[seatkid]

It is difficult sometimes to see beyond what we know and are familiar with. Unreasonable brand loyalty seems to be a particular affliction with the diesel crowd. Typically this shows up in forums like HJ where someone asks the question "Whats the best diesel?". You will then see dozens of enthusiastic posts about how "their diesel" is the best ever made. Citroens, Peugeots, Fords, BMW...you name it....its there

 

I have been guilty of unjustified brand loyalty for far too long (30+ years). At one point I would get very emotional arguing about how VAG vehicles were the best in the world. Even when the evidence staring all along at me in the face (VW Golf MkIII) was shouting exactly the opposite. I put this down to the combination of 2 really crap "first cars" I had the misfortune to own in my youth (SAAB 99GLE, FIAT 131), followed by something wonderfully reliable in comparison (VW Passat).

 

It screwed up my brain for the future.

 

Only now am I starting to unwind this psychological damage and looking more impassionately at cars.

 

Yes! Every manufacturer has good cars and crap cars, including VAG.

 

And one thing I have come to realise......that modern VAG diesels are like Massey Ferguson tractors compared to some other manufacturers.

 

Thats why I've ordered a Vauxhall Corsa with a Fiat engine. :rolleyes: Only time will tell if I regret my decision :D

[tim-spam]

1) Assuming that because the press write nice things about a car means that it's good

 

2)...is like saying that Coronation Street must be intellectual and informative TV because it commands so many column inches.

 

3)...and was, in fact, total and utter pants. Like the A4 2.0TDi.

1) Who said that?

 

2) Depends on the paper you read - certainly doesn't take up any column inches of what I read. I think there's a bit of logic failure here - the majority of column inches devoted to soap operas are generally found in publications that would hardly be classed as 'intellectual and informative'.

 

3) Your opinion - although to label a good product as rubbish just because you don't like it is not really valid. As for coming onto this forum expecting some sort of sympathy because you've been lumbered with yet another diesel is perhaps a little silly - afer all, you should really consider your audience, over 90% of whom have chosen to buy diesel for all of the many advantages it offers. You obviously do not like diesels - that's clear - but this really comes down to personal prejudice and nothing more.

[El Dingo]

1) Assuming that because the press write nice things about a car means that it's good

 

2)...is like saying that Coronation Street must be intellectual and informative TV because it commands so many column inches.

 

3)...and was, in fact, total and utter pants. Like the A4 2.0TDi.

1) Who said that?

 

2) Depends on the paper you read - certainly doesn't take up any column inches of what I read. I think there's a bit of logic failure here - the majority of column inches devoted to soap operas are generally found in publications that would hardly be classed as 'intellectual and informative'.

 

3) Your opinion - although to label a good product as rubbish just because you don't like it is not really valid. As for coming onto this forum expecting some sort of sympathy because you've been lumbered with yet another diesel is perhaps a little silly - afer all, you should really consider your audience, over 90% of whom have chosen to buy diesel for all of the many advantages it offers. You obviously do not like diesels - that's clear - but this really comes down to personal prejudice and nothing more.

 

1. Erm, actually you did. "After all, the A4 2.0 TDI gets really bad write-ups in the press...". You were being sarcastic, right?

2. This is obviously taken out of context - I don't feel the need to answer this.

3. Of course it's just my opinion, you fool! Actually, the 'temporary' car is quite nice - the diesel is much more refined than the Audi, but there's a little more turbo lag. Nothing's perfect, eh?

New car is on order... Guess what engine??? :rolleyes:

 

Sympathy??? Don't make me laugh!

Actually, that's the point of 'General Discussion and Nonsense' - to have a laugh. Long standing members here will know that I make anti-diesel comments frequently and that I can be remarkably silly and unreasonable on occasion.

Have a beer (or whatever makes you happy) and lighten up!

[gregers]

Long standing members here will know that I make anti-diesel comments frequently

 

no wouldnt of guessed,your just jealous :rolleyes: :lol:

[El Dingo]

Yeah, you're right gregers - jealous of the better fuel consumption.

And jealous of the turbo my new car won't have. :lol:

 

Wish I could fit a Subaru STi engine in a BMW Mini... :rolleyes:

[tim-spam]

1. Erm, actually you did. "After all, the A4 2.0 TDI gets really bad write-ups in the press...". You were being sarcastic, right?

2. This is obviously taken out of context - I don't feel the need to answer this.

3. Sympathy??? Don't make me laugh!

Actually, that's the point of 'General Discussion and Nonsense' - to have a laugh.

4. Long standing members here will know that I make anti-diesel comments frequently and that I can be remarkably silly and unreasonable on occasion.

5. Have a beer (or whatever makes you happy) and lighten up!

1. Erm...actually I didn't. Just to be clear, all I meant was that there are many who's living is actually driving cars who rate the A4 TDI as a very good driver's car.

2. Not taken out of context at all.

3. Anyone who spends their own money on a Galaxy 2.3 Auto has my sympathy.

4. Agreed.

5. I don't really think I'm the one who needs to lighten up.

[mumof4]

Lighten up peeps please........got some white emulsion if you need it?..

 

A lot of us are guilty of saying certain cars are rubbish/cr@p etc.....done it myself :P

 

we all have our own opinions/favourite engines/cars/etc.....even favourite colours.

 

It really doesnt matter what paper/mag you read, in all of them there are parts that are hardly brain taxing..

 

we are all daft and silly at times....

 

As for petrol engines..never thought i would drive a car with a petrol one wish i had a diesel one but right now apart from the fuel consumption i cant fault it..goes like a bat out of hell!

 

 

Soooooooo....who wants a lollipop ???? got strawberry flavour??

[tim-spam]

I don't really think I'm the one who needs to lighten up.

Been pretty light hearted all the way through this thread - after all, we can't really take the diesel haters too seriously, can we.

[gregers]

goes like a BAT out of hell!

 

NO I CANT its too easy :)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

yeah i can

thats coz theres a bat driving it :) ;)

[gio]

Just to clarify (assuming that there isn't a deliberate misunderstanding here), the 2.0TDi is quicker than the figures would suggest. The diesel needs to be in third gear to reach 60, the petrol will reach 60 in second. Whether petrol or diesel, the gearchange takes time and, of course, the car isn't accelerating during the gear change (unless you indulge in trick changes. Doesn't mean it's any good, any fun, or remotely refined, however.

 

Funnily enough, the A4 gearbox is very good, once you ignore the initial 'crunchiness' when brand new. It might even be the very same box in both cars...

 

Assuming that because the press write nice things about a car means that it's good is like saying that Coronation Street must be intellectual and informative TV because it commands so many column inches. For example, the 70's Honda 250 SuperDream - extremely popular, received good reviews (not really surprising, as the bike sold so well and these were owned by the readers of the magazines where the reviews appeared) and was, in fact, total and utter pants. Like the A4 2.0TDi.

 

:)

 

 

From what i remember the honda 250 super dream was indeed a good bike with very good reports

are you mixing it up with another product from honda?

[gio]

"Thats why I've ordered a Vauxhall Corsa with a Fiat engine. Only time will tell if I regret my decision"

 

I think thats a good choice of engine, at least.