neiluk Posted July 7, 2007 Report Posted July 7, 2007 Hello all, After my oil change about a month ago, I noticed that my oil was over the Max mark by just over 1cm. After trying to suck some oil out using fish tubing (and nearly colapsing my lungs in the process!), I booked my Gal in and asked for about 300-400ml to be removed as I estimated this would be approx the right amount to get it just under the Max mark. All seemed well, but the following day I checked the dip stick in the usual position (my level drive) and the oil level seems to be exactly the same -_- . I thought they would use one of the pumps I have read about down the dip stick hole but I think they tried to use the hole that has a black cap that is connected to a soft tube as there is now oil around this area where there was none before.- See pic below. http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t244/Neilwuk/oil2.jpg The foot of the cap just seems to be resting in the hole on a rubber ring and part of this ring is not sitting flush against the metal. Should this cap just be able to be lifted off as it doesn't seem very secure and leak proof? What is this cap and soft tube for? http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t244/Neilwuk/oil1.jpg What is the best hole for me to suck some more oil out of if I can find a better bore tube? I though it was the Dip Stick hole but if the garage used this other hole maybe I should too. How much volume would a 1cm overfill be? i.e. how much should I be expecting to suck out? Sorry for all the questions but any help is greatly appreciated, Thanks, Neil. Quote
mumof4 Posted July 7, 2007 Report Posted July 7, 2007 as previously posted on this forum before, 1cm over the max mark should be ok and there should be no ill effects on the car. If you are going to suck some out, use the dipstick tube...even better...do an oil change. Quote
motorwise Posted July 7, 2007 Report Posted July 7, 2007 as previously posted on this forum before, 1cm over the max mark should be ok and there should be no ill effects on the car. If you are going to suck some out, use the dipstick tube...even better...do an oil change. exactly - you'll never get anywhere near the oil in the sump through that hole - it's the breather as said just take the opportunity to change the oil and filter good luck Quote
Guest wolfie Posted July 7, 2007 Report Posted July 7, 2007 After my oil change about a month ago whats all the rush to change the oil? galactic mileage in a month or so? take it back to the muppets who didnt do the job correctly in the first place and after they get their breath back and finish crying over the swift kick in the nuts you just gave them get them to do the job properly! Quote
big_kev Posted July 7, 2007 Report Posted July 7, 2007 I would have thought you would burn that amount of oil in a month.No...maybe its just mine then. Alternatively renew oil filter there's probabably that amount in sitting in the old one. Quote
sparky Paul Posted July 8, 2007 Report Posted July 8, 2007 Alternatively renew oil filter there's probabably that amount in sitting in the old one.What a logical idea to reduce the oil level! :D If the filter is new, you could just remove it, tip the oil out and replace... Quote
katman Posted July 8, 2007 Report Posted July 8, 2007 Alternatively renew oil filter there's probabably that amount in sitting in the old one.What a logical idea to reduce the oil level! :D If the filter is new, you could just remove it, tip the oil out and replace... Unless you used the alternative Oil Filter Removal Tool ...... screwdriver driven through the filter :D Quote
seatkid Posted July 8, 2007 Report Posted July 8, 2007 Don't bother - 1 cm is not going to cause problems IMO. If it was over filled by a garage it's their responsibility (at their own cost and some COMPENSATION to you) to correct it. You mention that it is still over after a visit to a garage? What?? Didnt you check it at the garage before you drove away? Sheesh!! :D Quote
mumof4 Posted July 8, 2007 Report Posted July 8, 2007 Dont forget that you should check the oil level when the engine is cold.When the engine is hot it will read a higher level. But as has been said before by myself and seatkid, 1cm isnt going to do any damage. Quote
neiluk Posted July 8, 2007 Author Report Posted July 8, 2007 When I collected the car it was half on a pavement on a bit of a hill so the oil level wouldn't have been accurate on the dip stick. I've had no reason do doubt their honsety in the past though. I am reasured that the 1cm over won't do much harm and look forward to driving my Gal more 'normally' as it's had the wrong tyres and worrying oil levels since I bought it and i've been driving it accordingly gently. I hate to think what the MPG will be like if I put my foot down! :D I was hoping that my car would have used some oil in the last month but it seems to have used none so far. Is it right that my breather cap just rests on the rubber ring or should it seal down in some way? I'm a bit concerned that I will get oil leakage from the loose fit. I didn't notice how this cap was resting before the garrage opened it up. That's a good point. I wonder if all dip sticks are exactly the same length? Thanks, Neil. Quote
seatkid Posted July 8, 2007 Report Posted July 8, 2007 (edited) Is it right that my breather cap just rests on the rubber ring or should it seal down in some way? I'm a bit concerned that I will get oil leakage from the loose fit. I didn't notice how this cap was resting before the garrage opened it up.The garage shouldn't have touched this.... Should be a tight sealed fit, no leaks. Looks like something is missing. Hope nothing has pulled off and dropped into the camcover....... Anyone with a 2.3 like to examine theirs? Edited July 8, 2007 by seatkid Quote
sparky Paul Posted July 8, 2007 Report Posted July 8, 2007 (edited) Is it right that my breather cap just rests on the rubber ring or should it seal down in some way? I'm a bit concerned that I will get oil leakage from the loose fit. I didn't notice how this cap was resting before the garrage opened it up.The garage shouldn't have touched this.... Should be a tight sealed fit, no leaks. Looks like something is missing. Hope nothing has pulled off and dropped into the camcover....... Anyone with a 2.3 like to examine theirs? Mine's quite a snug fit, it needs the heel of the hand to push it back in - it should be an air (and oil) tight seal. Yours looks complete from the pictures, but the rubber insert in the cam cover looks a bit deformed... Edited July 8, 2007 by sparky Paul Quote
jimjamjo Posted July 9, 2007 Report Posted July 9, 2007 (edited) Similar to mine - a push fit into a rubber seal - little resistance when you pull it out. The 2.3 I bought last month had a service in January. I checked the oil and it was say 1.5cm above the max - up to the bend in the stick. Removed sump plug and drained a litre which brought it down to the max mark - took 3mins as I already had the undertray off. According to Haynes, the difference between max and min is about 1 litre. Interestingly, the oil had an orange hue... Edited July 9, 2007 by jimjamjo Quote
sanjsanj Posted July 12, 2007 Report Posted July 12, 2007 Could it be that the garages are putting a whole bottle of oil in and don't know that it only requires 4.5 litres IIRC? (i don't know if this also apply's to the petrol engines, someone please confirm) Quote
insider Posted July 13, 2007 Report Posted July 13, 2007 The oil change capacity for the 2.3l engine is 4.0 litres with a filter change or 3.75 litres without, i.e. the filter contains 250ml of oil. Quote
sparky Paul Posted July 13, 2007 Report Posted July 13, 2007 (edited) Could it be that the garages are putting a whole bottle of oil in and don't know that it only requires 4.5 litres IIRC? (i don't know if this also apply's to the petrol engines, someone please confirm) There seems to be about a litre left (from 5l) when I do a change, perhaps a little less, so I'd go with 4 litres too. Edited July 13, 2007 by sparky Paul Quote
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