Wheres Relay 30 On A Mark 1?

[makil6]

hi again folks, had a bit of bother starting the gal recently. struggled to turn over yesterday, nothing at all today. all the dash lights are on and also tried one of those battery boosters, still no joy. been reading up about relay 30. but can find it. anybody any ideas where it is on the mk 1. i think theres only one level of fuses and relays but not too sure. i can here a click coming from the relays when i turn the key but i dont know which one it is. the ones i do have are....128,169,53,72,109,18,21,19,36,53,and 103. need help desperately, cheers

mike

[morticiaskeeper]

It isn't actually relay number 30, it's just got a big 30 on it!!

 

Have a listen out of any ticking noise from the fuse box, or put a finger onto each relay in turn, with all other electrics turned off.

 

If your relay 30 is faulty, it'll be the hot one!

[big_kev]

I would ignore the relays...it sounds like your battery is flat.

 

The diesel engines take a bit of turning over.........either trickle charge your battery overnight or find a pair of decent jump leads and a friend or neighbour ( with a car ).

[makil6]

thanks guys, charged the battery overnight tried it this morning. no joy. when it was trying to start yesterday it was really sluggish then nothing. so maybe something blew but what or where it is thats the problem. still got all the dash lights. any help guys. cheers.

[seatkid]

There is no relay 30 on Tdi - its the petrol pump relay!

 

Struggling to turn over and won't accept a charge?

 

Buy a new battery and stop messing about.......

[makil6]

cheers seatkid, but its all too easy to go and buy a new battery and still be in the same boat but 50 quid out of pocket. positive its not the batt as i had the one out my diesel golf in it the morning to no avail. the batt in the gal is only two years old anyway so i would hope for a bit longer out of it. also tried a heavy duty booster on it, no good. anyway i thought the whole point of this forum was to help each other and not tell people 'to stop messin about.............'

[big_kev]

Seatkid's probably right ( he usually is )

 

However check the obvious, do you have 12v at the starting motor when trying to turn the engine over ( best to disconnect the motor to check this ).

If so then the problem is definitely either the motor or the battery ( assuming you dont have a seized engine.......have you tried bump starting it ?....couldn't see if yours is a manual or not ).

 

If you don't have 12v at the motor then you could be looking at a dodgy relay.

 

My money is still on the battery.

 

I think Seatkid's comment was meant with the best intentions...he is a nice guy...a bit dodgy looking apparently...but a good bloke.

[makil6]

Just an update of the outcome of my prob...........New starter motor fitted yesterday, now starting as new( with the same old battery!). Through some hi-tec detective work found that tapping the starter with a hammer(handy tool) enabled it to turn over a couple of times all be it sluggish before it gave up altogether. Took it out asked a friend to check it and hey presto it was goosed! Bosch replacement fitted in around 20 minutes. So just cos your car is toiling to start dont automatically think battery and go and waste 50-75 quid on a new one. As the money may be needed elsewhere.

[seatkid]

Glad you got it sorted, at least it wasnt Relay 30... :unsure: