Same Problem Water In Footwell

[LOZ]

I took my Gal to an auto electricians as the heaters, air con, air circulation had all stopped working. They found the problem - it the `water in the passenger footwell' again. Unfortunately there's nothing they can do and I have to take it to Ford ouch. The electric box thingy is corroded.

 

Does anyone know how much approxiamtely get this fixed? Just so I can brace myself

 

Gal not cost me anything in the 7 years I had it - apart from tyres, etc so I think its worth spending some cash - but nice to know how much though!

 

Also need some body work doing - had a slight smack with a van and the door panel and rear panel is bent in, anyone know how much this will cost to put right/replace? = thought about insurance, but last time I had some work done they stung me for it the next year!

 

Cheers !

[Bigjeeze]

Loz

 

why not try taking the "box" out taking the case off and cleaning it? When this happens to mine I cleaned it in the sink under running water with a nail brush then dried it in a warm oven - it's still working now (about 4 years). It may not work - but it's worth a try!!

[LOZ]

Thanks for your suggestion - but knowing my luck I'll probably cook the thing - and burn it!

I'd rather have someone do it who knows what there doing (ie not me!)!

 

Cheers anyway!

 

I have just sent an e-mail to another local Ford garage to ask how much the bill would be - seeing as its a common problem they should have some idea!

Edited May 15, 2007 by LOZ

[Horatio]

You know it's a common problem, I know it's a common problem - but will your local Ford garage know? It's always common unless it happens to you. In which case, it's very unusual and will cost you an arm and a leg! LOL!

 

The rusty box of gubbins is the result - what you need to deal with is the cause - the actual source of water ingress, otherwise you'll be back in exactly the same boat before long. I wouldn't trust a dealer to solve the problem TBH. They might well dry the car and replace the 'box of tricks' for you. They will definitely charge for all the time your car is parked at their garage. But I doubt they'll have the will to establish exactly where the water is coming in from. That's the bottom line. :lol:

 

And as you'll note, the number of sources where the water could be coming in from is quite bewildering.

 

I'm in exactly the same boat as you (no pun intended) and so far I've experienced about 5 of the known causes, each time the results were the same - water on the passenger floor well. Except the windscreen - that resulted in water in both the floor wells and caused the windows to open and shut of their own accord. Usually during heavy rain!

 

I'm taking a belt and braces approach to solving a passenger side foot-well 'pond' that has been appeared and re-appeared ever since I first owned the vehicle in 2001. Mine is a W reg 2.3 GLX.

 

In order, here's a list of possibilities for you to investigate:

 

1) Windscreen leak - can effect both foot-wells and can easily interfere with your ECU, fitted under the driver's seat.

2) Pollen filter leak - effects the passenger foot-well, caused by incorrectly fitted pollen filter - where filter doesn't fit correctly over the seal.

3) Scuttle drains - these can become blocked, consequently the water pools and drains through the pollen filter or possibly elsewhere on the bulkhead.

4) Black plastic shrouds at base of windscreen, under the wipers - where these plug in need to be silicon sealed - 4 out of 6 reside over the occupant side of the bulkhead!! That's right - directly over your feet, behind the dash!!

5) Inner door seal/weather seal - the metal lip where it fits at the base of the door entrance can become rusty and irregularly shaped.

6) Sunroof - the drain pipe from this can become disconnected and needs to be refitted.

7) Rear washer pipe - as discussed here.

 

In addition, a really helpful member included the following on a word document on another thread.

 

8) A pillar joint seal. Close proximity to 4) on the list above. Download the word doc for full details/diagram.

9) Bulkhead panel joint seal.

10) Wheel housing/Bulkhead/floor panel seals

 

 

If anyone can add anything to this list, I would be most grateful - keeping my Galaxy dry is a work in progress.

 

Regards the underlay beneath the carpet - when it gets wet, the carpet above may in some cases remain dry. However, you'll notice the smell before too long and perpetual misting of the windscreen. Getting it dry is no easy task as the sound insulation material is a thick, dense, felt-like material. I removed the grey trim (about 4 or 5 screws concealed by removable plastic covers), lifted the carpet and used a stanley knife to cut through the rubber matting/underlay/felt. I cut as large an area as I could - right up under the dash, up to the centre console and back as far as the seat. The resultant mass of wet underlay easily weighs in excess of 20kg if it gets as saturated as mine did. It holds alot of water!

 

To get it dry - be patient. It's not going to happen over night. You don't want this thing corroding your floor pan or damaging your air-bag inflation charge, or the loom. The way I dried mine was to leave as much water run/drip away first - all day when the weather was fine, draped over a wall in direct sunshine, rubber side uppermost. Then I took it indoors - with permission from the missus. BE WARNED! You won't be able to hide this thing from your other half. I put it in the bath and used old towels to draw out moisture. Then when it just felt damp, I left it held up against an economy seven storage heater. It took 4-5 days to fully dry out.

 

Don't bother re-fitting it until you've convinced yourself (!) that there are no more leaks. Since 2003, I've had to remove this passenger side underlay 4 times. It's no joke.

 

I appreciate I'm new to the forum, bear with me whilst I air my sorrows! :lol:

[rbar]

I agree with Horatio, I tried everything, had screen out and sealed