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Hi all, this is my very first posting, so excuse any errors :D ...

 

I have just bought a 55 reg 130bhp Zetec Galaxy with just 8000 miles which generally I'm really pleased with. One really annoying "feature" I have come across is a loud wind noise coming from the drivers window. I have searched this site and found numerous other posts around this topic, but none seem to cure the problem.

 

The Problem: Driving at anything over 30mph results in a whistling/"wind noise" which appears to come from the drivers window area.

 

Things I've Tried so Far: As I bought the Galaxy from a Ford main dealer, it has been back in 4 times so far. The technicians agree they can also hear the fault (which rules "me" out), they have replaced the "outer door seal", re-sealed the front quarter-light window seal, put masking tape around the windscreen, mirror, roof bars, all door "joints/seals", checked all grommets around the pedals, etc, ruled out the internal vents. They even used an ultrasonic tool which apparently they use to identify water leaks. They have also checked all the seals, and can't locate any gaps. They can't think of anything else to try, but agree the problem hasn't been affected by all the various tests they have carried-out. They claim to have checked their internal database for similar problems and can't find any reference to this issue. I find this strange, as I have found a number of similar frustrations on this site with the same issue!

 

Advice I've Taken from Previous Posts on this Site: I tried taping up all the joints around the drivers wing mirror - no difference. I tried driving down the motorway and pulling the front door inwards by pulling at various points around the drivers window - no difference. I can't seem to affect the noise by anything I try from inside the car.

 

I'm begining to think this is a "design feature", or something caused by the air flow around the wing mirror, but this doesn't explain why it doesn't happen on the passenger side. Please can anyone help me with this, as I don't know what else to try? Anyone else got this same problem? Is it just a case of turning the radio up?

 

Thanks guys

 

bodgerd!

Posted

One last test to perform.

 

Tape the edges of the drivers door to the body, gain entry to the vehicle from the passenger door and do a run up the main road or motorway.

 

My feelings would be that the top of the door is sprung out slightly hence "catching" the wind.

Posted
Thanks Neil. When the Ford garage tried their miriad of tests, this was one thing they did. They used 4 inch masking tape and sealed every join in sight. They told me they taped all around the door, the mirror, the windscreen, the quarter-light window, etc. I tend to believe them, as when I got the car back I could see that they had got in through the passenger door (oily boot marks on the passenger side floor mat and the arm wrests were in the up postion)! Thanks for trying though!
Posted

Hello bodgerd.

 

Open the bonnet and see if there is a piece of foam missing from the area above the air filter. I do have a picture, but as a newbie, I cannot upload them so I "borrowed" one from "Changing Your Air Flow Meter, 'How To' guide with Pictures" ckick ^_^

 

http://www.bigtrucker.co.uk/images/maf/001.jpg

 

It would be the piece of foam next to the rubber lip. I know that it is small, but it does make a difference. But the sound would come from the small triangle window in front. If the sound is from the door area, then I have no idea.

 

 

Decappo

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To avoid wind noise, make sure that the rear of the door sticks out slightly (maybe a mm) beyond the following door or panel.

 

If the doors are flush to each other you can get noise.

Posted

decappo, thanks for the tip and picture, I might need further info to locate the precise bit of foam you refer to. It's gone into the garage again today, and this time they are taking it to some form of "specialist". I will have a look for this piece of foam when I get it back...assuming the noise is still there. It's hard to say exactly where it's coming from, but the Ford engineers obviously suspected the little triangle window as they took this out and re-sealed it twice! Interestingly, you can hear the noise really clearly when driving with the drivers window down as well. I've tried putting my hands over as many seals as I can safely reach while driving (and also all around the mirror area) at 40mph, but just can't locate it!

 

El Dingo, the guys in the garage apparently checked all the door alignments, but thanks for your suggestion!

 

I'll let you know what happens when I get it back (for the 5th time now)!!

 

Keep the ideas coming!

Posted
I got the Galaxy back last night and the so called "specialists" couldn't sort the wind noise either. Ford have hit a total brick wall on this one. They assure me there is nothing on their internal database about this, which surprises me given the number of threads about this issue. I spent half an hour with the Ford engineer who has been looking at this issue for me and we walked through everything they have tried (which all seems logical) - taping up the windscreen, around the bonnet, lights, doors, quarter light window, mirror, roof, roofrails - still get the problem. This indicates to me it's not about air coming into the car through a seal, but is something to do with air turbulence outside the car. The fact it also happens when the window is fully in the down position also points to this being the case. As to why this only happens on the drivers side, Ford has no idea - we spent ages comparing the two sides of the car and can't seem to see anything! So, Ford can't fix it and their only advice was to contact VW to see if the Sharan's suffer with the same problem. Any one know about this? What about the Seat's? I could see one post from a Seat owner, but the fix seemed to be taping up the mirror joints - doesn't work on the Galaxy. Also, does anyone know of a route for e-mailing into the Ford technical people about this? Thanks.
Posted
How about the plastic door liner (inside the door behind the panel) that stops wind from the door handle and lock area from entering the passenger compartment, if this has been disturbed through a replacement glass or lock maybe it hasnt been replaced correctly. This would account for the window up or window down making no difference.
Posted
Thanks Bleeno, that made me smile on a busy Friday before a bank holiday!! In fact, the guys at the Ford garage inspected these and taped them up with 4" masking tape, but didn't seem to make a difference. I might try driving with the window down and grabbing hold of the roof bars at some point to see if that affects things!
Posted
I think you may just have to live with it...i know i get wind noise..usually after a curry..but i just turn the stereo up! :lol: :lol: :rolleyes:
Posted (edited)

Hello again.

 

I found another picture that I wanted to show you last time. I know that it is in the motor compartment, but it does make a difference.

 

 

 

 

It is from the German Forum www.SGAF.de which is all about the Galaxy's and it's sister cars VW Sharan and Seat Alhambra.

 

decappo

Edited by mumof4
By request
Posted
am sure there are foam bits missing off there..You did ask if you could use those pics?as they look copywrited to me with their club name on them.
Posted

well I am a member there...

 

If the pictures need to be removed, then please let me know how to edit it to get rid of them. Now that I found out how to post the pictures, I can post mine :rolleyes:

 

http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/1267/left1dc8.jpg

 

decappo

Guest wolfie
Posted (edited)

that was a site I use to visit! jeez all the good sites get ruined eventually http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/images/smilies/runaway.gif

 

 

 

took me a while but I found the smilie I was looking for http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/images/smilies/Crylol.gif

 

 

http://www.mustangboards.com/images/smilies/postwhore.gif watch her decappo she has a reputation http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/images/smilies/pokey.gif

Edited by wolfie
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that was a site I use to visit! jeez all the good sites get ruined eventually http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/images/smilies/runaway.gif

 

 

 

took me a while but I found the smilie I was looking for http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/images/smilies/Crylol.gif

 

 

http://www.mustangboards.com/images/smilies/postwhore.gif watch her decappo she has a reputation http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/images/smilies/pokey.gif

 

 

i was curious!.lol.

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