Jimbo73 Posted November 7, 2006 Report Posted November 7, 2006 I have a noise which is like a vibration type noise when the wheel is near or on full lock. It doesnt happen all the time. But at really slow speeds moving off with wheel on lcok results in the noise. Could this possibly be the stabiliser link rods, or is it a problem with the power steering... Any ideas thought... all are most welcome.... I bought this Galaxy on the cheap and now I know why. I have had to unseize the wiper linakge, the rods underlinks things need replacing (clunk when driving on uneven camber), and this noise. Dam i wish i knew more about cars...... Quote
JohnR Posted November 7, 2006 Report Posted November 7, 2006 I have a noise which is like a vibration type noise when the wheel is near or on full lock. It doesnt happen all the time. But at really slow speeds moving off with wheel on lcok results in the noise. Could this possibly be the stabiliser link rods, or is it a problem with the power steering... Any ideas thought... all are most welcome.... I bought this Galaxy on the cheap and now I know why. I have had to unseize the wiper linakge, the rods underlinks things need replacing (clunk when driving on uneven camber), and this noise. Dam i wish i knew more about cars...... Depends what the vibration sounds like....if its high frequency then could be something snagging on the tyre, if its a lower frequency and regular knocking sound on hard lock it sound like an outer cv Quote
Jimbo73 Posted November 7, 2006 Author Report Posted November 7, 2006 It is a low frequency loud hum..... What is an outer CV joint, how much would this cost by a freindly garage? Quote
Scorpiorefugee Posted November 7, 2006 Report Posted November 7, 2006 Hi Jimbo, I bought mine on the cheap 18 months ago and it had a string of what turned out to be annoying but fixable problems. Mine has now done a further 40k and I wouldn't swap it. You problem sounds like one mine had when I first got it. It turned out to be nothing more than worn drive belts but that did it at standstill if you worked the steering hard. It's probably a good idea to get the cam belt done as well if you get to the point where you intend to keep it. (You don't say if it's diesel or petrol) I've now got 2 of these things and neither had been fitted with a drive belt for more than the reccomendes period. The second, with 70k and one owner and bought from the garage that had supplied it new and maintained it, was still on the oroginal, so it seems that the only way to be safe is to get it done anyway. I hope you get it sorted. I've got a local garage that I can trust and I just took it round and let them have their way with it. If you got it cheap and you know somewhere, it may be worth doing the same. Good luck, Ron Quote
Jimbo73 Posted November 7, 2006 Author Report Posted November 7, 2006 It is a 2000 V Reg Ghia 2.3 petrol and cost me Quote
El Dingo Posted November 7, 2006 Report Posted November 7, 2006 The 2.3 has a cam chain, not a belt, so no worries there as long as the oil is kept clean. I agree with Scorpiorefugee - Quote: It turned out to be nothing more than worn drive belts but that did it at standstill if you worked the steering hard. Unquote. So check the auxilliary drive belt. I think it's unlikely to be a CV joint - this would be a knock-knock-knock-knock heard on full lock that increases with road speed. BTW, that's a great price if the car's in good condition, even for a Mk1. :lol: How many miles does it have on the clock now? Quote
davey1825 Posted November 7, 2006 Report Posted November 7, 2006 hi jimbo, I have the same noise on my 96 Galaxy, i just put it down to having big wheels on it (Don't ask me why!!!) It isn't the sort of noise that can be explained clearly!!!, I rate myself as fairly handy at reparing vehicles but this has got me!! best regards daves Quote
Jimbo73 Posted November 7, 2006 Author Report Posted November 7, 2006 It has 85,000 and the service book is filled in with polar ford at every interval and all the sheets are with it. and seems to be in great condtion apart from these niggly bits.. It was one of the bosses from a company we used to deal with and he was worse than me at cars and I dont think he could be bothered fixing them coz he just bought a brand spanker Peugeot 8 seater thingy.. Where are the drive belts... Is it possible for a lay person to change them or garage? I am hoping the droplinks will be here for saturday, so that will stop the clukning noise... Would there be a definitive way to find out if it is the drive belt or CV joint... If i was to leave it for a bit would it cause a great deal of damage? Would these be picked up on an MOT... You will have to forgive me if these questions sound rediculous but I am useless when it comes to cars.... Although I can regrease a seized linkage in a day now i reckon.... Thanks to MO4 Quote
El Dingo Posted November 7, 2006 Report Posted November 7, 2006 Auxilliary Drive Belt - Looking at the engine, on the left hand side. It's a 'poly-vee' belt, which means that it has lots of grooves. Not too hard to change. The risk of damage is if it breaks and you keep on driving. BTW, do a search on Air Conditioning, as problems with the belt can be related to imminent compressor failure - but any component can sieze - e.g. water pump - and cause belt problems. But it might not be this causing your noise... :blink: Quote
davey1825 Posted November 7, 2006 Report Posted November 7, 2006 i'm sure it's not the drivebelt or the CV's, but i can only speak about the noise i am experiencing on my car!!!!! Quote
Jimbo73 Posted November 7, 2006 Author Report Posted November 7, 2006 Once again I would like to say thanks for all your help!! If the drivebelt or CV Joint is causing the hum, what could happen if either of these items fail. If the drivebelt goes and I stop Immediately will it cause damage. If th CV Joint goes what is the likely outcome?? Just Risk assessing the situation.. Cost Versus Risk .... Please let me know.... Many thanks.,,, Quote
davey1825 Posted November 7, 2006 Report Posted November 7, 2006 Drivebelt---> On the 2.0 & 2.3 i'm sure that the belt drives the Waterpump, Alternator, Powersteering Pump, and if you have it Air Con so if this were to break in service and you were to stop immediately then you should not cause any damage, but your steering would go really heavy and your engine coolant would no longer be circulating around the radiator as your water pump would stop as well, the red battery light would also come on as the alternator would no longer be running to charge the battery, i know it seems like a lot but it is a serpentine belt that drives numerous items. All in all nothing a new belt would not cure!! Constant Velocity Joint---> A worn CV joint can generally be heard before it "goes", the CV joint can be checked for by as you probably well know driving around in a tight circle full lock in both directions and listening for nasty metallic clicks from the wheel area which goes faster the faster you accelerate, If you can not hear any noises from the CV's and the Rubber boots around the joints are not split meaning it still should be nicely packed with CV grease then the CV's should be fine, I have only seen CV's so worn that they no longer actually drive the car only on one occasion, so in my experience is rare to get to this extreme, I have also heard of driveshafts actually snapping as well but i have never personally seen this myself. Best Regards :P Big Dave Quote
Jimbo73 Posted November 7, 2006 Author Report Posted November 7, 2006 Dave thanks for the info.. You can rest assured I will be on the Tesco car park tomorrow night driving round in a tight circle to see if it gets louder... and to make a proper mental note of the noise...It is definatley not a click metallic or not,, its a hum which instincts tell me is caused by vibration or rubbing.. Will update tomorrow in the tight turning circle... If i dont get arrested that is.... LOL Quote
JohnR Posted November 8, 2006 Report Posted November 8, 2006 Dave thanks for the info.. You can rest assured I will be on the Tesco car park tomorrow night driving round in a tight circle to see if it gets louder... and to make a proper mental note of the noise...It is definatley not a click metallic or not,, its a hum which instincts tell me is caused by vibration or rubbing.. Will update tomorrow in the tight turning circle... If i dont get arrested that is.... LOL Just check you haven't got a loose plastic shield in a wheelarch which is rubbing on the tyre! Quote
Jimbo73 Posted November 8, 2006 Author Report Posted November 8, 2006 HAHA Thanks John.... I will check for this as well......HMmmmmm Cars.... Quote
NikpV Posted November 8, 2006 Report Posted November 8, 2006 Auxilliary Drive Belt - Looking at the engine, on the left hand side. It's a 'poly-vee' belt, which means that it has lots of grooves. Not too hard to change. The risk of damage is if it breaks and you keep on driving. BTW, do a search on Air Conditioning, as problems with the belt can be related to imminent compressor failure - but any component can sieze - e.g. water pump - and cause belt problems. But it might not be this causing your noise... :( wonder if the load on the power steeering pump is greater at/near full lock which could empahasise the noise then, hence the relationship to the steering if it is he aux belt - ??? Quote
Jimbo73 Posted November 8, 2006 Author Report Posted November 8, 2006 Auxilliary Drive Belt - Looking at the engine, on the left hand side. It's a 'poly-vee' belt, which means that it has lots of grooves. Not too hard to change. The risk of damage is if it breaks and you keep on driving. BTW, do a search on Air Conditioning, as problems with the belt can be related to imminent compressor failure - but any component can sieze - e.g. water pump - and cause belt problems. But it might not be this causing your noise... :( wonder if the load on the power steeering pump is greater at/near full lock which could empahasise the noise then, hence the relationship to the steering if it is he aux belt - ??? I like the reasoning behind that.... Hmmm . Got me thinking... On my way to the local empty supermarket carpark!!! Will update with the results... Quote
Guest GeDundee Posted November 19, 2006 Report Posted November 19, 2006 Dave thanks for the info.. You can rest assured I will be on the Tesco car park tomorrow night driving round in a tight circle to see if it gets louder... and to make a proper mental note of the noise...It is definatley not a click metallic or not,, its a hum which instincts tell me is caused by vibration or rubbing.. Will update tomorrow in the tight turning circle... If i dont get arrested that is.... LOL Just check you haven't got a loose plastic shield in a wheelarch which is rubbing on the tyre!My daughter has a 96 gal had a similar problem the sound was more evident on the motorway on the bends the noise only came from the left on a left bend and sounded similar to running up a rumble strip on inspection the left hand antiroll bar drop link as it is called was snapped but not visible without the wheel off replaced both killed the noise hope this helps Gedundee Quote
NikpV Posted November 22, 2006 Report Posted November 22, 2006 Auxilliary Drive Belt - Looking at the engine, on the left hand side. It's a 'poly-vee' belt, which means that it has lots of grooves. Not too hard to change. The risk of damage is if it breaks and you keep on driving. BTW, do a search on Air Conditioning, as problems with the belt can be related to imminent compressor failure - but any component can sieze - e.g. water pump - and cause belt problems. But it might not be this causing your noise... :rolleyes: wonder if the load on the power steeering pump is greater at/near full lock which could empahasise the noise then, hence the relationship to the steering if it is he aux belt - ??? I like the reasoning behind that.... Hmmm . Got me thinking... On my way to the local empty supermarket carpark!!! Will update with the results... anything found in the supermarket car-park then - (apart from how expensive food is now and a few hub caps :blink: :wacko: ) Quote
davethecabbie Posted December 12, 2006 Report Posted December 12, 2006 Dave thanks for the info.. You can rest assured I will be on the Tesco car park tomorrow night driving round in a tight circle to see if it gets louder... and to make a proper mental note of the noise...It is definatley not a click metallic or not,, its a hum which instincts tell me is caused by vibration or rubbing.. Will update tomorrow in the tight turning circle... If i dont get arrested that is.... LOL Just check you haven't got a loose plastic shield in a wheelarch which is rubbing on the tyre! Quote
NikpV Posted December 12, 2006 Report Posted December 12, 2006 anything further on this Jimbo73? Quote
davethecabbie Posted December 12, 2006 Report Posted December 12, 2006 hi everyone not been on this forum for a good while.my gal has now done 170k miles and not to many bills apart from servicing, the big bill was Quote
Jimbo73 Posted December 13, 2006 Author Report Posted December 13, 2006 Sorry for not getting back... Had a good look and listen, a drive round he car par. It does seem to be the pump overworking. When I have near full lock on and just start to move thats when it happens or not moving and I am turning the wheel close to full lock it happens. Apart from that my mate got in the car the other day who knows less about cars than I do, and I said to him 'what do you reckon the noise is' he said straight off, 'Oh thats your power steering thingy, once you move or give it some gas it will go.' He gets his cousin out who is an apprentice VW machanic and he agrees. So hopefully that will be that with it. Just as long as I dont overwork the baby, it should , woops dont wanna say that. Tempting fate and whatever... Quote
spongebob_antspants Posted December 21, 2006 Report Posted December 21, 2006 I've got a similar noise on my Galaxy, similar to the symptoms described by Jimbo73 and davethecabbie. I've also been getting attention from supermarket security cameras as I drive around their car park in tight circles! The noise is a vibration/rattle that only occurs when the steering lock is absolutely fully on. However I don't think it can be the CV joints because it happens even when the car is stationary and in neutral. I took it to a local garage (not a Ford dealer but a small backstreet garage that's done good work on my wife's car in the past). The guy there had a look and reckons it's the "serpentine belt", which he's recommended that I get changed. However he can't guarantee that this will fix the problem, he also suggested it could be something to do with the power steering pump. Any thoughts or comments anyone please? I'm tempted to get the garage to go ahead and replace the serpentine belt but that could be a waste of money if it doesn't fix the problem! Quote
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