Infra Red Key Program?

[keith9534]

Hi

 

I now this has been covered a few times, but still need a little help!

 

What "state" does the car need to be in to program an infra red key?

 

Do the doors need to open/unlocked/locked/hanging off?????

 

I have tried the three times in 5 seconds but I can`t get the LED on the door to go solid?

 

Any help?

[keith9534]

Does the key need to be programmed PATS wise first?

 

I have just the remote part at the moment and am trying to get that bit working

 

On a mondeo key its possible to have just the central locking part functional without the immobiliser part working.

 

Is a Galaxy the same?

[NikpV]

On a mondeo key its possible to have just the central locking part functional without the immobiliser part working.

 

Is a Galaxy the same?

 

 

yes

[Vanbursta]

I suspect the C/L control box has been replaced at some time, if it hasn't been reprogrammed by WDS you will NEVER get it to work. (the LED will never stay illuminated), I have personal experience of this and I can tell you that when you take the car in they will tell you it doesn't need programming, I can assure you it does, it's just that no Fraud mechanic has ever done it/heard of it before.

[keith9534]

I suspect the C/L control box has been replaced at some time, if it hasn't been reprogrammed by WDS you will NEVER get it to work. (the LED will never stay illuminated), I have personal experience of this and I can tell you that when you take the car in they will tell you it doesn't need programming, I can assure you it does, it's just that no Fraud mechanic has ever done it/heard of it before.

 

I`m not aware of the C/L box being replaced but it wouldn`t surprise me!

 

Can you elaborate a bit?

 

Whats WDS?

 

Does this mean that the unit needs to be turned on even after its been fitted? Can it be done any other way (VAG?)

[NikpV]

Whats WDS?

 

 

fords wds 2000 - talks to car electronically

 

IIRC vanbursta had a bit of a job with his :lol:

[Vanbursta]

Right I will try to run through this as briefly as I can.

 

WDS is Ford electronic diagnostic system, its a kind of computer that plugs into the socket behind the front ashtray, the connector looks similar to a scart lead.

 

If you change the C/L control box (its a black box that sits in the well under the passenger seat) it needs to be re - initiallised (or programmed) by Ford. If it isn't done everything will work, interior lights c/l etc BUT you won't be able to program the remote key fob, this is because it is supplied with a basic default set of operating peramiters (similar to LOS Limited Operation Strategy OR limp home mode), which do not include remote locking / unlocking, the unit is capable of it but it doesn't know the car has got it. I had a 3 month argument with my local dealers who INSISTED that the box did not need to be programmed, their master tech even told me that "we just bung em in and they work" and that they had "never had to program one before", in the end I made a bet with the service manager, if I was wrong I said I would pay IN FULL for the time and connecting to WDS (which would of amounted to 90 quid ish) but if I was right then I would pay nothing. As soon as the dealer connected my car to WDS it showed "unit unprogrammed - program now?" on screen, the technician pushed the yes button and I was then able to get the unit to go into programming mode with the 3 turns of the key in the lock as per the manual. It was a double result for me because not only did I get it done for free, they had to contact everybody else who had it changed and do theirs too.

 

I tried 7 different dealers within a 75 mile radius and not one of them knew anything about programing the unit (good job WDS does it automatically), you just have to convince them to connect the car to WDS by any means! - bribary, blackmail, shotgun etc :-)

 

It was not possible to do it with VAG COM as it works slightly differently and you would need to manually input the code, the only way to get the correct code is to plug into WDS which "dials home" and compares the cars ECU settings to the settings it left the factory with.

 

Essentially you are correct in that the unit needs to be "turned on" when refitted.

 

Hope this helps, I have tried to be as concise as possible.

[keith9534]

Cheers for that.

 

So I guess I need to sweet talk Fords to connect it for free....if it does the update on its own then I can`t see them charging for it...... :lol: :lol: ;) :)

[Vanbursta]

I bet they try! It took all of about 45 seconds to do mine and cure a problem I had had for 3 months (not being able to program remote key)

 

Best of luck