oho...you'll get jumped on for calling it a bus!! :lol: What probs you got then? What you doing out in the Stan if you dont mind me asking? It is a bus - We need one as Mrs TS is pregnant with #5 (ouch) Thats why i am in the Stan. peace and quiet .. lol The car keeps backing out - i.e. no electrics at all - no warning just bam.... its presently in car hospital What am i doing here - Marine Logistics on the Capsian for an oil major..... basically playing with boats and hovercrafts in the Caspain Sea .......... its all good fun especially in winter when -40 Attached a snap of a sunday out - its primitive.... be good take care TS