Just thought that now that i have finally been able to join ( didnt like my e mail address) i would say hello, i have been backwards and forwaeds through varios parts of the site as i have owned my Sharan for 10 months and love it, so versatile, 1.9 tdi with 164000 on the clock,1998. Yes i have problems with it, electrical but i will now be able to use the search facility instead of every thread :) I daresay i will be along to pester you all at sometime but not this weeek,,,, off to Spain, Cheers for now Trev,