Many thanx gregers and guru seatkid!! :32: now to look for a garage that can strip down turbo/ egr / manifold who know what they are doing as well as not ripping me of f, had the pleasure of being HalFrauded re: Abs sensor ...am based in Leicester, East mids, some of the garages i've asked have stated just change the turbo and be done with it!,,, Any suggestions which garages or garage chains might do it, don't want to fork out money for a wishy washy job and be told its all sorted whilst a cowboy job gets done with the crud still inside the inlet manifold/ egr /turdo but i can'tsee it as all closed up (not visible ),,,,am not mechanically proficient, more like a an armchair theoretical average joe,,,lol Thanx lads!!!