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i have a ford galaxy t reg and it cut out. i took it to ford and they made it worse. i've managed to fix most of it but they told me they disconnect the alarm system and there was no immobiliser but still not starting. they really conned me up and wanted £1800 for not fixing it so i took the keys off of them and just had it towed out of there. they were absolutely awful. Thats Bishops stortford ford gates. never go there.!!!!!! Please help me if anyone knows anything. I have cables hanging out of everywhere.

thank you, i will definately do that. i was told it never had an immobilaser and all ford disconnected was the alarm. it was them who said it never had an immobiliser. i'm so lost and it seems i've jumped down a rabbit hole. lol. thank you for all your help.

so heres a possible silly question, inside the relay is a solenoid, and i bypassed the in and out pins(30 to 87) of that relay. Now pins 85 and 86 go through the solenoid. is that correct? if thats the case, are these the control wires? are they needed? could this impact the car starting? thank you so much for you and everyones help. i do feel there is a light at the end of the tunnel. lol

i now have a wiring diagram and have been following it which led me to the other faulty relays that are used to start the car. its turning over and fuel pump is working. got a full tank of the correct fuel and the plugs have a spark. Its one thing after the other. lol.

hiya, the car cut out originally and it was turning over, took it to ford who had it for 18 days, they couldn't find the problem, when i collected it, the car would not turn over and this is where my problems started. they have made it worse somehow and thats what led me to where i am now. I changed relay 30 as everyone said that was the issue. after i changed it there was still nothing working. underneath it was relay 167 when i bridge the connections 87 to 30, the pump starts up where as it wasn't before. The k191 or 185 was the crypto transponder relay and replaced that relay and it started turning over. Now the fuel pump runs and it turns over but not starting up. checked the plugs and theres a spark and the starter motor is fine. the car doesn't have automatic transmission.

right, got it turning over, checked relay k191 or 185 (cryptotransponder) i over rid the relay and it started turning over. there wasn't enough battery to fire so i will try it again later. Can anyone explain what it is as i have no clue what it does or what for. Also if this went would it just cut out the car whilst driving. i'm not sure it would because the car was turning over when first broke down.

hiya guys, checked all links, checked all fuses, everythingthing is fine but car still not starting. turn the key and nothing. anymore ideas? lol

i can't thank you all enough for taking time out of you day to help me with this. thank you

hiya, i didn't electrocute myself, lol. i didn't get a chance to check as my daughter was ill. i'll have a look. as for the alarm, it had a aftermarket alarm on it which ford disconnected (ripped it out and cut the cables) they said it never had an immobiliser, just an alarm. i'll have a good look tomorrow again for the other advice mentioned.

i'll give it a go now. thank you, i let you know in a min

the starter clicks, it is a chipless key its a manual drive we have had the computer connected showing no results, so did ford. i have no idea what you mean by pipe or deerstalker? lol the fuel pump engages and starts up, all the lights come up on dash board but as soon as turn the key nothing. no sound at all. i hear the relays clicking in one at a time as i turn it slowly. it doenst even try turning over or make a sound. i'm stumped. it was turning over before it went to ford and all they did was disconnect the alarm system (no immobiliser was fitted in the first place and they said they checked the relays. they reckon it was the fuse box supply but ive tested this and theres power to all terminals in and out. Thank you for the reply.

had a look and still nothing, bought a new battery and still nothing. turn the key and there is no sound at all. checked all the earths and still nothing. really don't want to depart with this car.

thank you i will have a look at that. i'll try anything.

hiya guys, at a real loose end. Could really do with some help. i have a ford galaxy 2.3 ghia t reg. form the begiining. i was driving on motorway and then power went. everything stopped and got it to side of road. Tried starting it and it turned over nicely but no firing up. The aa came out and kept trying and they found there was no power to the fuel pump switch (ineartha). towed it to a ford dealers in bishops stortford and they had it for 18 days. They removed the aftermarket alarm and checked the relays. the car now doesn't even turn over but this could be the battery cos nothing works in the car now. After 18 days they wanted to charge me £1800 for diagnosis fee. told them to swivel as they hadnt diagnosed it. got the car back home and searched online. Relay 30 kept coming up so i ordered one and replaced it. charged the battery up after it being dead for 2 monthes. The fuel pump now makes a sound but still not turning over. Theres power to the starter motor and i gave the coil a little knock but still nothing. Tried jump starting and no turning over. Tried bump starting and nothing again. Ford left all the fuse box hanging down so i can get to all the relays. checked them all, all the fuses are fine. checked cables, fine. Had a look at the ignition barrel and it seems it has been changed. as turn the key one click, two click and then third click makes a spark sound. I.m literally at a loose end and really don't want to get rid of the car as its not worth much scrap and its the first car i really enjoy driving. Please any advice or help would be greatly apprteciated. Thank you and look forward to the replies

hiya guys, at a real loose end. Could really do with some help. i have a ford galaxy 2.3 ghia t reg. form the begiining. i was driving on motorway and then power went. everything stopped and got it to side of road. Tried starting it and it turned over nicely but no firing up. The aa came out and kept trying and they found there was no power to the fuel pump switch (ineartha). towed it to a ford dealers in bishops stortford and they had it for 18 days. They removed the aftermarket alarm and checked the relays. the car now doesn't even turn over but this could be the battery cos nothing works in the car now. After 18 days they wanted to charge me £1800 for diagnosis fee. told them to swivel as they hadnt diagnosed it. got the car back home and searched online. Relay 30 kept coming up so i ordered one and replaced it. charged the battery up after it being dead for 2 monthes. The fuel pump now makes a sound but still not turning over. Theres power to the starter motor and i gave the coil a little knock but still nothing. Tried jump starting and no turning over. Tried bump starting and nothing again. Ford left all the fuse box hanging down so i can get to all the relays. checked them all, all the fuses are fine. checked cables, fine. Had a look at the ignition barrel and it seems it has been changed. as turn the key one click, two click and then third click makes a spark sound. I.m literally at a loose end and really don't want to get rid of the car as its not worth much scrap and its the first car i really enjoy driving. Please any advice or help would be greatly apprteciated. Thank you and look forward to the replies

ecu fine, followed wires from fuel pump and changed fuses to be sure. really not sure now

alarm is out and imobiliser out already. changedd all the relays and nothing.

thank you. for all your help. i will check the relays tomorrow. gotta go and pick it up from gates today.

thats my first mission. Relay 30 is gonna be checked. someone also said relay 167

thank you for your reply. i'll look into it. I have all the wiring diagrams now so i will be doing a long hard search

they have 5 mechanics charging £100 and hour and they are always fully booked. Thats £5000 they pull in every ten hour day. lol No idea what they were doing. Now i'm back to square 1 trying everything to get it fixed.

the quote originally was for £99.70 and hour plus parts. This was a diagnosis fee and hour and they had tried for 21 hours. I told them that they did not diagnose anything so i wouldn't pay. I also found that no parts were added but they accidently added that on the invoice. they are a joke.

thank you for your reply, I will be sorting it on tuesday, they have decided to charge me nothing but i will tell them i want it back together. Thank you and thank you for making me realise that.

he's right, i've got same model and i just checked.

hiya, my ford galaxy t reg 2.3 ghia petrol lost power whilst driving. The AA came out and found that the fuel pump had no power to it. He put voltage to it and it the pump works fine. so we thought it was a relay fault or perhaps an after market imobilser fault. so we took it to gates ford in bishops stortford which was a big mistake. When it got there it was cranking over but not firing up. so they apparently checked relay 30 and swapped it with others. they removed the alarm system (ripped it out) and they have no idea what it is. I went to have a look at it today and they want £2300 for diagnosing it but they don't know what it is. i now have no central locking and nothing works on the car. I did a quick test and bridged relay 30 between points 30 and 87 and nothing happened. I open the door and the relays start clicking like mad and if i put the keys in it gets worse. There was no immobilzer connected in the first place so they have ripped out my alarm for no reason. They have no idea but want me to pay for them not finding anything. They are a joke. I'm getting it away from there and try and sort it. If anyone knows anything or has ever come up against this before then i would be very grateful. It worked fine until lost power whilst driving. Used to crank over but now it doesn't. I'm at my wits end and know there must be someone with an answer. Thank you. Robbie