Problem sorted, picked up a set of seat alabama tdi clocks from scrappy today plugged them in job done, they are a bit different from mine as they have the bulb failure/door open panel but they work. Only thing is know the airbag light is on(oh joy)more head scratching. So if your clocks are playing silly buggers try a cheap donor set first, saves alot of swearing and head scatching. Thanks for everybody`s input, information is a good thing.