no,car failed fairly quick,temp never went in to red as we were going uphill and power went so pulled over,got towed home,got soeone comming out monday too fix it,thanks for all the help guys,dont seem to have much luck with cars!!!hbby said it was going on the way back from surrey but nothing major was going on,went on way back fro picking me up!bloomin` cars! :rolleyes: all fixed,yay!said the air filter pump will need replacing but not urgent and the thremostat needs replacing soon too,how easy is that to fix?