Thanks cyborg, Didn't check there! easyiest bloody part to get to!! Had words with recently retired Ford mechanic who's going to have a look at the car tommorrow. Water pump is looking likely and yes i know px exchange slighlty drastic part tbh i never have really loved the car. Thnks to everyone who replied. let you know whta the outcome is.. Fitted thermostat, Better but still not right. Booked in @ local garage Monday, Water pump, cam belt, full service mmmmmmmmm there goes