thanks guys the car did also judder on take off which lead me to believe headgasket problems also but this has turned out to be HT leads break down and the car seem to be ok apart from this god forbid im sure its the condensation build up as some of you have mentioned i took the car for a spin down the motor way then check oil and no "french yougart" (scum) on the filelr cap lol must just be a water leak some were now the search begines :o