Job done ! Thanks for all your help, the most difficult thing was finding a T45 bit to undo the 4 bolts. I put the bolts back in so I can't lose them ! The seat came out with out any drama, and also enabled me to clean up the glass remnants from when the passenger window was smashed. Apart from the lump in the middle and the small hole in the carpet the 6 seat 2+2+2 seating arrangement is much more like what I actually need. Incidentally even though the seat is much thinner than prevois tumbling models it weighed a surprising 40lbs. - Only 2 lbs lighter than my previous seats on my 52 plate. 2.2 tdci 2+2+2 seating, gypsy traveller option pack, 18 y spokes, sports suspension, 235/45 ZR18 conti's, pan roof, sun blinds and roof bars.