Hi Scorpiorefugee thanks for the info, i may just try and put some more fuel in the tank, when i had a look in the fuel filter the first time it was empty so it may be out of fuel, its just i have had it down in the red with not a fault, and do you know when i turn the car over to try and start it it just beeps at me? i had this happen when i put a new fuel filter on and im not sure i know what it is, i had to fill the filter to start the car it just wont start if you dont fill the filter first. thanks steve