Many thanks for your thoughts, Titanic was said deliberately - I seem to be having a titanic battle trying to persuade the dealer that all new titanics aren't built like this! I think persuading them to give me a different one is a pipe dream - perhaps in the West Midlands they believe in customer service - after being in yesterday and nothing being done except the door now rattles and the carpet is covered in mud, customer service is not something this dealer believes in !!!! I haven't even mentioned to you about the rear sensors that don't sense anything unless you ar 6 inches from the bumper - that is normal, so I am told!! keep you all up to date with the next developments. Michael.