More Power!

[Guest MATT]

hello everyone,

 

starting to get jealous that those with manuals can have 130PS or 150PS, i have been thinking about these Tuning boxes you can buy. i know that GSMGuy had one on his galaxy, called a speed buster.

 

basically, do they do what they say? what are the draw backs? and is there a real difference? can you really feel that there IS more power available?

 

from other people on here, i am aware that you can get cheapo ones, that are simply a resistor, and arnt very good. however the "decent ones" are expensive.

 

having a quick look on e-bay, i found this one, is this any good?

 

MATT

[Guest MATT]

just seen this one too.

 

also, what do these things plug into?

 

...and will it have any adverse affects on my Automatic Gearbox? :o :unsure:

 

MATT

[widu13]

I had one for my motorhome which bumped the power up from 85 to 110 bhp. It worked and made a hell of a difference. Fuel consumption went down a little but not much. Takes about 30 secs to install/uninstall (had to with mine as was under warranty)

 

Basically mine was a box of tricks (cost about

[Guest MATT]

thanks, i will go and have a look.

 

MATT

[Guest MATT]

for those of you who have had these, did you find that the car "takes off" faster. eg, from standstill when joining a roundabout?

 

Thanks,

 

MATT

[Guest kd035050]

My father bought one of these for his VW 1.9 TDI and it made a massive difference tio to performance of the car. He got his from the following site

 

www.mrhoot.com

 

 

They were very good at getting the part out and gave great instructions on how to fit.

 

And best of all they are very keenley priced

 

 

Chris

[Guest MATT]

thanks kd035050, it looks good, but still

[Guest kd035050]

the only thing thing box actualy does is fool the injectors into pushing more fuel into the engine. If you drive normaly and use the extra power as and when you need it then you wont have any trouble, however like any vehicle if you push it on too hard all the time it will finaly have a detremental affect. I believe the autobox in the Galaxy is actualy hardier than the manual, especialy as it has no clutch and the Galaxy manual does specify greater towing capacity for the desiel auto.

 

 

i think the biggest difference you will see is you can go much quicker, however when you give it some gas as well as extra push you will get extra black smoke from the exhaust due to the over fueling. I don't beleive this is detremental though.

 

 

Chris

[Guest MATT]

thanks kd035050. so do these boxes only truly kick in, when you need it? as that sounds a better idea to me.

 

to me, a bit of smoke on acceleration doesn't matter, after all, its a diesel, lol

 

MATT

[Guest kd035050]

The whole point of these boxes is to change the engine power curve. This can only realy be done by introducing more fuel. The box tells the ECU that the MAF is sensing more air than it actualy is and as a result over fuels to catch up, thus providing a steeper power curve. This is especialy effective in the mid range, the torque increase is the best part of it, it is amazing.

 

 

Chris

[widu13]

The whole point of these boxes is to change the engine power curve. This can only realy be done by introducing more fuel. The box tells the ECU that the MAF is sensing more air than it actualy is and as a result over fuels to catch up, thus providing a steeper power curve. This is especialy effective in the mid range, the torque increase is the best part of it, it is amazing.

 

 

Chris

That's only part of it. The box of tricks is also "tuned" to local conditions. i.e. decently graded diesel etc.

 

An out of the factory diesel will run on diesel from any part of the world..and belive me there are some huge differences in quality. The box will basically trick the car into thinking it's been remapped (remapping is something different) for top quality only diesel and use the appropiate settings instead of the general ones.

 

Just the same as Fairy washing up liquid is the same as Tesco value stuff, but is a lot better (I don't think it would work in the car tho!! :D )

[ninjakev]

I bought GSMGuy's speedbuster and can honestly say it was the best

[GSMGuy]

Thanks Kev... MAtt - don't bother with the cheap ebay ones, they merely fool the car into running rich...

 

There is quite a lengthy thread on this somewhere, but the search engine on here is - to use a technical acromyn - CRAP!

 

Will have a look for it now..

 

Mike

[GSMGuy]

MATT...

 

 

http://www.fordgalaxy.org.uk/ford/index.ph...=6044&hl=buster

 

http://www.fordgalaxy.org.uk/ford/index.ph...=5783&hl=buster

 

http://www.fordgalaxy.org.uk/ford/index.ph...=4632&hl=buster

 

and

 

http://www.fordgalaxy.org.uk/ford/index.ph...=4357&hl=buster

 

Enuff info???

 

Mike

[Steven.Langdale]

Ninjakev/anyone

 

How can you get increased performance AND mpg? Surely better performance = more fuel? Thats where the engine gets it's energy from.

 

Am I missing something?

 

Steven

[Guest marcusheawood]

Hello,

 

The entire concept of 'chipping' is basically as already stated but has been simplified.

 

Your question is a good one and the answer is this; When the manufacturer developed your Engine, they were constrained by Government legislation around the world (wherever they wanted to sell the car) in various ways, therefore the engine was set to run on the lowest quality diesel fuel available in the target markets as kd stated. Additionally they had to meet the strictest emissions and noise regs, perhaps in another market (california?) and it is here that the trick lies.

 

If you are less concerned about emissions and more interested in performance (have you seen tractor pulling diesels?) then you can simply increase fuelling where the manufacturer has 'leaned' it in order to meet these strict emissions requirements. Ergo; more torque at a given engine speed (...and thereby more BHP). Additionally if you have an electronically controlled turbo then this can also be 're-mapped', perhaps to provide greater boost at lower given RPM.

 

If you are scientific (i.e. good chip manufacturers) about this 're-mapping' then you are simply returning the engine to it's optimum design efficiency and will therefore experience fuel savings due to this extra efficiency under ordinary driving conditions. If however you change your driving style to take advantage of the performance improvements provided by this increase in efficiency, then you will notice a reduction in fuel economy!

 

Reliabilty issues are not significant with diesels since the constraints are mostly mechanical (snapped conrods, cranks etc.) due to overspeeding the engine if you remove the governor. Obviously increasing the boost significantly can reveal head gasket weaknesses but I'm not sure that it's possible to increase overall boost pressure on this particular engine.

 

Buy a decent tried and tested chip (never the cheapest), or better still have your car set up on a chassis dynamometer for best results (even dearer).

[Andrew T]

Two thoughts, why is the Auto not offered on the 130/150? too much power for the box ? secondly GSM suffered major transmission problems - may not be related to his 143 BHP chip but you have to wonder.

[VeeDub Nutter]

Hi Matt.

I've been using a tuningbox for close to 18months now, & its fantastic.

have a look at www.tuningbox.com, the thing does exactly what is says on the tin!

At first i noticed less mpg, then after the novelty of all that extra ooomph, it returned to normal (41-43mpg).

it apparently changed my 110bhp to 135bhp.

very easy to fit, and you get an immediate, very noticable change.

i'd recommend fitting one time & time again.

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D

[Guest vr6galaxy]

Yet again another TDI driver not happy with his BHP figure :D I'll get flamed for this but here goes.............

 

 

TRY THE SEARCH ENGINE! THIS TOPIC HAS BEEN COVERED SEVERAL TIMES BEFORE :D

[johnb80]

i'd recommend fitting one time & time again.

Do you get more power each time you fit an extra one ? Whats the maximum number you can fit :huh:

 

JB

[johnb80]

Yet again another TDI driver not happy with his BHP figure :huh: I'll get flamed for this but here goes.............

 

 

TRY THE SEARCH ENGINE! THIS TOPIC HAS BEEN COVERED SEVERAL TIMES BEFORE :(

Jeez you are Grumpy, you must be back home then making do with a weakling V6 compared to a V8 :(

 

Regards - JB

[widu13]

Yet again another TDI driver not happy with his BHP figure :huh: I'll get flamed for this but here goes.............

 

 

TRY THE SEARCH ENGINE! THIS TOPIC HAS BEEN COVERED SEVERAL TIMES BEFORE :(

THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED AND VALUED COMMENTS IN THIS REGARD

[Guest MATT]

TRY THE SEARCH ENGINE! THIS TOPIC HAS BEEN COVERED SEVERAL TIMES BEFORE :(

I did :huh:

 

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thanks everyone for the input. i really like the sound of these boxes, and from all your experiences, they do seem to do what they say, the only BUT is, make sure you get a decent one.

 

so, i'm going to have a think about this, as

[Guest vr6galaxy]

Yep I'm back :( not driven the VR6 yet :( making do with the 130 TDI :huh:

and yep the flaming begins :(

as for my valid contri :( take a look at the active topics and see how many of them are reposts? then see how many of the same people are replying? and how many of those replys are totally pointless post saying ooh I had that once or my old 2.3 did that....... I bet if people actually spent a few minutes and used the search engine they could find the answer to their questions several times over and other posts, info on similer topics that may be a help to them? but no they start a new topic and the same muppets reply spouting the same mindless drivel and boost their posting numbers :( grumpy me? nah just been here a long time and seen the same old topics regurgatated several times over and answered by the same people time and time again.......................

[seatkid]

the same muppets reply spouting the same mindless drivel and boost their posting numbers

:huh: s