strouf Posted November 9, 2006 Report Posted November 9, 2006 Hi all !After adding one more seat to my Gal, I'm now trying to fit the roof mount three point seat belt . I have the belt, I'm ready to cut a hole to the rooflining, (already factory marked for cutting), BUT.... There's definately something missing from the roof. There is no place to secure the belt reel and front anchor. Looking at the Tis and then the ETKA, (couldn't make the Elsawin work though) came across this part (#8 in the att. foto) :It looks like what I might need , but since I never saw the missing part, I cannot tell. Went to VW dealers, they did not have it of course, must be ordered to Germany! Can anybody take a look at the attached foto and/or his car and see if this is the correct part to order? Headlining can easily be lowered (just enough to see the seat belt mechanism) by undoing the two plastic screws at the back end. Quote
NikpV Posted November 9, 2006 Report Posted November 9, 2006 I just tried to feel through the moulded headlining but its too thick/rigid, its too dark/cold to have a look now but I will try tomorrow if nobody else has - ps bump the post up so I don't forget Quote
Vanbursta Posted November 9, 2006 Report Posted November 9, 2006 Not sure about the MK2, but on the MK1 the seatbelt is mounted on the seat. Quote
AndeeeH Posted November 10, 2006 Report Posted November 10, 2006 Not sure about the MK2, but on the MK1 the seatbelt is mounted on the seat. In the Mk2; where fitted, the lap and diagonal, 3 point seatbelt returns to the headlining behind the 2nd row offside seat. The 2nd row middle seat will have two seatbelt locking points, a small one on the right and the normal one on the left. Its the same in the C-Max. :lol: Andy. Quote
Guest HairyPlateEater Posted November 10, 2006 Report Posted November 10, 2006 Why do manufacturers choose to put them up in the roof then? Is it a new safety measure that they have to conform to? My Volvo and Fiat both had the centre 3 point belt coming out of the top of the back of the middle seat and worked perfectly without obstructing the drivers view out of the back window like the roof mounted ones do. Quote
Guest gooner52 Posted November 10, 2006 Report Posted November 10, 2006 :blink: the first batch of mk2,s never had the belt in the roof i had a y reg 2001 mk2,it just had the lap belt for the centre seat so fords had a change of heart somewhere along the lines,cos the 52plate one has the belt in the roof not a great fan of the idea of the belt in the roof, :blink: Quote
MrT Posted November 10, 2006 Report Posted November 10, 2006 I believe the belt in the roof idea is that you are held in place by the car body rather than held in by the seat which if you had not pushed fully down after tilting fowards and the back floor clips engaged, would hinge forwards in an impact with you in it. Quote
strouf Posted November 11, 2006 Author Report Posted November 11, 2006 I just tried to feel through the moulded headlining but its too thick/rigid, its too dark/cold to have a look now but I will try tomorrow ... Any news Nick? Quote
NikpV Posted November 11, 2006 Report Posted November 11, 2006 I just tried to feel through the moulded headlining but its too thick/rigid, its too dark/cold to have a look now but I will try tomorrow ... Any news Nick? right I've pulled the head lining down and was very surprised to find that the reel for the seat belt is mounted right at the back by the tail gate - the part that it mounts on looks just like the bit in the diagram, the flat edge on the rhs appaers to mount along the back of the car leavinving the thing at a angle with the seatbelt running in the groove (below right of the 3 'grooves' on your diagram) the plate appears to be bolted/screwed to the car roof. Quote
strouf Posted November 11, 2006 Author Report Posted November 11, 2006 right I've pulled the head lining down and was very surprised to find that the reel for the seat belt is mounted right at the back by the tail gate - the part that it mounts on looks just like the bit in the diagram, the flat edge on the rhs appaers to mount along the back of the car leavinving the thing at a angle with the seatbelt running in the groove (below right of the 3 'grooves' on your diagram) the plate appears to be bolted/screwed to the car roof. Thanks a lot for your help ,really appreciated. I'll go ahead and order the part, hope you 're right ! Otherwise, you 'll just have to pay for itjava script:emoticon(':rolleyes:', 'smid_11'):P Quote
Andrew T Posted November 11, 2006 Report Posted November 11, 2006 Like others i have a mk2 with a lap-strap and I thought I'd read something (by VR6 in one of his previous incarnations?) stating that the bodyshell was modified to include the mounting a few months into MK2 production. I really would check that yours has a mounting point. Quote
strouf Posted November 11, 2006 Author Report Posted November 11, 2006 Like others i have a mk2 with a lap-strap and I thought I'd read something (by VR6 in one of his previous incarnations?) stating that the bodyshell was modified to include the mounting a few months into MK2 production. I really would check that yours has a mounting point. My car was produced May 04, and it is originally a six seater. There is definatelly no mounting point,it looks as all the mounting points and belt guides are placed on a metal plate that is missing ! I thought the body would be the same in all versions of the Mk2...Cannot understand why making variations of roofs is cheaper than adding the un-neccesary plate anyway Quote
Guest VR6! Posted November 11, 2006 Report Posted November 11, 2006 Like others i have a mk2 with a lap-strap and I thought I'd read something (by VR6 in one of his previous incarnations?) stating that the bodyshell was modified to include the mounting a few months into MK2 production. I really would check that yours has a mounting point. OIH! :P dont blame me, I said nothing about the Mk2, apart from what a stupid place to stick a clock! :rolleyes: Quote
El Dingo Posted November 11, 2006 Report Posted November 11, 2006 Mine is a Y/2001 and has the roof mounted belt, but then ours is (and always has been) a seven seater. Quote
NikpV Posted November 11, 2006 Report Posted November 11, 2006 Like others i have a mk2 with a lap-strap and I thought I'd read something (by VR6 in one of his previous incarnations?) stating that the bodyshell was modified to include the mounting a few months into MK2 production. I really would check that yours has a mounting point. My car was produced May 04, and it is originally a six seater. There is definatelly no mounting point,it looks as all the mounting points and belt guides are placed on a metal plate that is missing ! I thought the body would be the same in all versions of the Mk2...Cannot understand why making variations of roofs is cheaper than adding the un-neccesary plate anyway out of interest do you have the bulge in the centre of the headlining at the back running towards the front about 4 inches wide - where the reel is/will be installed? Quote
Guest gooner52 Posted November 11, 2006 Report Posted November 11, 2006 Mine is a Y/2001 and has the roof mounted belt, but then ours is (and always has been) a seven seater. what month was it registered el cos mine was a 2001 with 7 seats,but no roof reel... Quote
El Dingo Posted November 11, 2006 Report Posted November 11, 2006 Mine is a Y/2001 and has the roof mounted belt, but then ours is (and always has been) a seven seater. what month was it registered el cos mine was a 2001 with 7 seats,but no roof reel... May 2001 registered. However, the relationship between registration date and build date may vary.(Terms and conditions may apply, subject to status.) :blink: Quote
strouf Posted November 18, 2006 Author Report Posted November 18, 2006 out of interest do you have the bulge in the centre of the headlining at the back running towards the front about 4 inches wide - where the reel is/will be installed? Yep, the bulge is there ! The part in question is the one I needed. The cost was Quote
NikpV Posted November 18, 2006 Report Posted November 18, 2006 out of interest do you have the bulge in the centre of the headlining at the back running towards the front about 4 inches wide - where the reel is/will be installed? Yep, the bulge is there ! The part in question is the one I needed. The cost was Quote
Guest Cepheus Posted November 19, 2006 Report Posted November 19, 2006 I believe the belt in the roof idea is that you are held in place by the car body rather than held in by the seat which if you had not pushed fully down after tilting fowards and the back floor clips engaged, would hinge forwards in an impact with you in it. IMO People that can't correctly clip a seat back in placeshouldnt be driving a carshouldnt be trusted with other pepople in their car, anddeserve all they get!I agreed with VR6's signature pic .... take all the safety labels off everything and let Darwin's theory take its course ... :lol: Quote
NikpV Posted November 19, 2006 Report Posted November 19, 2006 I agreed with VR6's he'll be touched I'm sure :lol: ^_^ Quote
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