Cruise Control

[fclauson]

Hi all

 

Is the crusie control system pre-built into the electronics and all that is missing are the control swicthes or is there more to it than that - it would be great if by adding a couple of switches I could get it to work - but then again I dream of many wild things and most of them do not work either

 

 

 

Francis

Gal 2.3 Zetec on a T plate Auto

[insider]

It's true for the TDIs and V6 engines but unfortunately not for the Ford 2.3 engine you have.

[fclauson]

shame - it would have been a quick easy fix

 

All I want is cruise - just went to the alps and back - 8 hrs each way at 130KPH (honest) - would have been nice to flick the switch and then had a little snooze as the miles drifted past

 

Francis

[mumof4]

would have been nice to flick the switch and then had a little snooze as the miles drifted past

 

Francis

 

 

.....then the road bends and the car just keeps going up the embankment ,..oops..wakey wakey time!! :D

[PeeWee]

Does this mean on my MK2 TDI Gal, I could add cruise control easily? if so what would I actually need?

 

Thanks

[mumof4]

Well the stalk would be a good start..as for the rest..nay idea :D

[suzuki91]

there is a kit being sold with fitting on e-bay for about Edited July 30, 2007 by suzuki91

[andymet]

Hi

I am thinking of using this guy on e-bay to fit cruise control. his feedback looks good but has anyone used him? If so could you let us know how you went on?

 

Thanks

 

Andy Met

[insider]

I saw this DIY article a while ago but never got round to trying it (another reason being I don't have VAG-COM).

 

http://www.christiantena.pwp.blueyonder.co...ag/tdi/ccs.html

 

Obviously the wiring would be considerably different on the Galaxy, Sharan etc. and dependent on whether you have a Mk I or II. Also, the function has to be enabled within the ECU using VAG-COM. However, I have seen comments on other sites that it depends on which ECU you have as to whether or not it is possible.

 

I'll try to make sense of the wiring diagrams and suggest how external switches could be connected to try it out. Perhaps someone with VAG-COM would like to give it a go? As a DIY exercise, dash-mounted switches could be used. The more elegant solution then would be to buy the relevant stalk with the cruise controls on it but fitting that would involve removing the airbag which is probably not recommended for DIYers.

[Davetheref]

It will interesting to find out if this is the same on mark 3 gals\S-max TDCI's as cruise is one of the things i miss most going from my Ghia to a zetec.

[sparky Paul]

It will interesting to find out if this is the same on mark 3 gals\S-max TDCI's as cruise is one of the things i miss most going from my Ghia to a zetec.

I suspect it will be unlikely as the modification to the VW manufactured mk.1/2 relies on the VW diesel engine and ECU. :D

 

The mk.3 Galaxy is a completely Ford effort, based on the Mondeo/Volvo S60 platform, with all Ford engines, and built by Ford in Genk, Belgium.

[insider]

Obviously the wiring would be considerably different on the Galaxy, Sharan etc.

 

Just checked the wiring diagrams and it appears that not much has changed from the old TDIs described in the retrofit instructions, even the colour-coding for the wires is the same!

 

What I've found out so far is this:

 

The black wire is the 12v supply. With a suitable toggle switch this would need to be connected to the black/white wire which ultimately goes to pin 14 on connector C52b into the ECU. This would be the C/C on/off switch.

The red wire is the "SET / +" control. A push-to-make switch would need to be connected from the black wire to the red wire which goes to pin 44 of the ECU. A brief press should enable C/C and set the desired speed. Pressing and holding the switch should increase speed whilst C/C is enabled.

The blue/grey wire is the "RES / -" control. Again, a push-to-make switch would need to be connected from the black wire to the blue/grey wire which goes to pin 45 of the ECU. A brief press should enable C/C again at the previously set speed. Pressing and holding this switch should decrease speed whilst C/C is enabled.

The only difference is an additional grey wire which goes to pin 46 of the ECU. I believe this is some kind of "CANCEL" control which is only used on vehicles with the multi-function steering wheel (the stalk controls for C/C do not have a CANCEL feature). I think that the grey wire should be fed from the ON/OFF switch, i.e. black/white and grey wires should be linked together.

 

Of course, all this is theoretical at the moment. Next steps are:

 

1) Check whether the C/C connector (diagram below) is already present in cars without C/C, i.e. mine (assuming that VW use the same wiring loom for all vehicles regardless of features). This should be located beneath the cowling on the steering column. If it is present it would make life a whole lot easier as it means the wiring to the ECU is already in place making initial testing possible. The blue wiring diagram I have added shows how I believe the switches should be connected.

 

2) Determine whether C/C functionality is enabled within the ECU. In the retrofit instructions it mentions the VAG 1551 tool which I assume was the predecessor to VAG-COM? Is anyone with VAG-COM able to check what is required to enable C/C in the ECU? As I stated previously I've heard that, in certain ECUs, it's not possible to enable C/C but perhaps this could be confirmed?

 

If all this works then the most elegant solution would be to buy the relevant stalk with the cruise controls and fit this to the steering column. Wouldn't it be nice if it was that easy, but knowing Ford/VW it won't be!

 

I'll let you know how I get on. Perhaps someone else might want to try this too in the meantime?

[Chard1966]

After reeding the cruise topics and also the Trip Computer topics.

 

I have done a fair bit of messing around with my 04 Galaxy Zetec TDI.

 

First I brought the C C stalk and the trip stalk ,

after talking to Ford (they said my Galaxy was fitted with a midline cluster).

When fitting the CC and trip stalk found there was no wiring for the C C or trip stalk and the cluster was only a Baseline.

 

I have now brought a new Midline cluster from Ford

[Chard1966]

I have spoke to the guy on ebay selling CC kits

[mikej]

Sorry to hijack this thread but i have cruise installed and cannot for the life of me get it to work , No split pipes etc and it was working although a bit rough due to corroded pump . Bought a new pump and fitted now won't switch on , cannot get 12v at pump ! pump does work however as brand new , if anyone has the know how then please share the knowledge it doesn't seem to switch or click any relays when activated on stalk :ph34r: ?????

[mikej]

Sorry to hijack this thread but i have cruise installed and cannot for the life of me get it to work , No split pipes etc and it was working although a bit rough due to corroded pump . Bought a new pump and fitted now won't switch on , cannot get 12v at pump ! pump does work however as brand new , if anyone has the know how then please share the knowledge it doesn't seem to switch or click any relays when activated on stalk :ph34r: ?????

[Rallim]

I have spoke to the guy on ebay selling CC kits

[insider]

Rallim,

See http://www.fordgalaxy.org.uk/ford/index.ph...st&p=116611

[mikej]

Does anybody know where the c/control module is actually located or is it built in the the main ecu ,MK2 GAL 2.3 ??????

[insider]

Does anybody know where the c/control module is actually located or is it built in the the main ecu ,MK2 GAL 2.3 ??????

Under the dash panel on the driver's side. There should be a brown 12-pin (2 rows of 6) connector plugged into it.